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Author:  josh knauer [ Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:54 am ]
Post subject:  A month with no moderators

We're coming up on one month since we went moderator-less (other than me). What do you think of this experiment so far?

We've had a few bouts of spam/porn posts, but because of some other measures I've taken I think there's been a drastic reduction in the amount. It probably takes me longer to get to than when we had more moderators who could delete and ban the spam.

There certainly has been a LOT less drama. Discussions have been happening and I've not been interfering much at all, yet we still seem to be well within the rules in most instances. Less drama is a good thing.

Do you agree? Do I have my head up my ass on this? Did I just violate my own rules by asking the previous question? :shock:

-josh

Author:  Iowanic [ Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A month with no moderators

I so want to start a thread complaining abut the bad words around here.... :lol:

Less drama, yes....

Fewer posters, too.

Can we have one without the other?

Don't know.

Author:  roadside [ Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A month with no moderators

I have to agree with "nic" regarding the bad language. I realize people use this offensive terminology regularly in public, but that still isn't any excuse for using it in here. In that these forums are viewed by a wide range of people (and in all age groups) it says little about us to the average person. I'm quite sure those who use offensive language surely wouldn't do so in front of their own children.

Author:  Ann Vole [ Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A month with no moderators

I think most forum software has automatic word replacement that can be used to automatically clean up language without any actual moderation... if you want to say something, you have to use nice words or your post has "fudge" instead of "f___" or has "==censored==" in it.

Author:  josh knauer [ Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A month with no moderators

Our software does have the ability to do word replacement, but I need to know which words to replace and trust me, you start heading down a slippery slope towards censorship. How come no one is reporting this foul language? I don't think I've seen any reports to that effect in the last month. I really didn't know this was a problem.

-josh

Author:  Fosgate [ Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A month with no moderators

From an administrative perspective, my stress level has obviously gone down. To that point, I haven't noticed a drop in drama in the public arena because quite frankly, that bridge was always blown before anyone got a chance to cross it. Now, there has been a significant drop in posts relevant to EL issues elsewhere. Threads have been dropping like flies.

Author:  Ante Bozanich [ Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A month with no moderators

josh knauer wrote:
We're coming up on one month since we went moderator-less (other than me). What do you think of this experiment so far?

We've had a few bouts of spam/porn posts, but because of some other measures I've taken I think there's been a drastic reduction in the amount. It probably takes me longer to get to than when we had more moderators who could delete and ban the spam.

There certainly has been a LOT less drama. Discussions have been happening and I've not been interfering much at all, yet we still seem to be well within the rules in most instances. Less drama is a good thing.

Do you agree? Do I have my head up my ass on this? Did I just violate my own rules by asking the previous question? :shock:

-josh


Naturally, I believe that less control and authority and more freedom is always better. This is specially true since the power of authority is abused most of the time. I think that in this kind of extremely emotionally charged war zone setting, it takes special skills and special people to keep their own bias out of the administrative work. I have seen very few people ever and anywhere capable of doing this. As far as this place is concerned for the last four years, I think that Wayne Stollings and Sandra John have at least tried at times.

So yes, indeed, I consider this a very positive step. Personally, I thought that having moderators, all of whom hold an obviously strong anti animal liberation sentiment and believes on the forum designated for discussion of animal right and animal "welfare" issues was very odd. It was not surprising to see a formation of a malignant anti animal clique here.

I do think, though, that you have to give it a lot of more time to see the real progressive change happening here, if you want one. With more freedom, who knows, maybe you may get some young green anarchists and other pro animal people joining in. Discussions may become critically constructive and reflective instead of reactionary. Moreover, maybe we will start seeing some threads dealing with animal rights and animal "welfare" issues instead of zillion of threads, one after the other, extracted from the latest tabloids' news which most of the time had nothing to do with animal rights, animal "welfare" or environment.

You must admit that joining this site, at least recently, has been like coming to a place for a discussion on racial issues and the liberation of black people, for example, but finding out that most of the participants in that discussion, including the panel, are KKK members (No, I am not saying KKK gang = anti animal gang). Or, likewise, finding out that a forum setup for discussing violence against women, feminism and women rights is dominated by rapists and wife beaters. I think a more balanced representation is desirable and hopefully will emerge slowly now.

Regarding spam and porn... so what! The Internet and the rest of the media is full of it. Just about every commercial and advertisement is a spam, vulgar and offensively pornographic, if you ask me.

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