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Author:  arc108 [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Is TruVenom also a hunter

I just found out that another moderator has been made.

Is Tru Venom a hunter?

Wayne Stollings is a hunter
and Josh Knauer has publicly advocated the killing of does.

So is yet another moderator chosen from that 4% of the population
which advocates the stalking of animals in the woods

Author:  Fosgate [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:44 pm ]
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You have a thread in the animal concerns section inquiring about the same thing, Arc:

http://www.envirolink.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2067

Why spam the board?

Author:  redfurrymonster84 [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:25 pm ]
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I was kind of asking the same question to myself also. :lol: I just recently noticed that he/she was a mod also.

Author:  Archer [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:27 pm ]
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First of all, what does it matter? Second of all, a whole lot more than 4% of the population approves of hunting.

Author:  Fosgate [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:31 pm ]
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redfurrymonster84 wrote:
I was kind of asking the same question to myself also. :lol: I just recently noticed that he/she was a mod also.


It's been over 2 weeks since the announcement...

http://www.envirolink.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1455

Also, if you hadn't noticed, Sandra's been out-of-pocket lately.

Author:  redfurrymonster84 [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:54 pm ]
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Fosgate wrote:
redfurrymonster84 wrote:
I was kind of asking the same question to myself also. :lol: I just recently noticed that he/she was a mod also.


It's been over 2 weeks since the announcement...

http://www.envirolink.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1455

Also, if you hadn't noticed, Sandra's been out-of-pocket lately.


Hmm.... it did not appear as a new post to me or I must have skipped it or something. Thanks.

Author:  josh knauer [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is TruVenom also a hunter

arc108 wrote:
I just found out that another moderator has been made.

Is Tru Venom a hunter?

Wayne Stollings is a hunter
and Josh Knauer has publicly advocated the killing of does.

So is yet another moderator chosen from that 4% of the population
which advocates the stalking of animals in the woods

Arc108... why on earth does it matter? This is the EnviroLink Forum, which is about environmental and animal concerns issues. You continue to rant in your incoherent fashion both here and elsewhere and seem to refuse to accept that this is not a PRO or ANTI anything forum. It is a place for debate of issues. Folks who are designated as EnviroLink Volunteers have stepped forward to enforce the rules here. If you have a complaint with the way that the rules are being enforced, then please post them. If you continue these senseless rants with no point, you're not going to be welcome here.

-josh

Author:  arc108 [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:22 pm ]
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ARA's have volunteered to be moderators...
and they represent 90% of the population, not 4%

yet you have consistently turned them down Josh

Why don't you appointNed Ludd, Grace and Nt Speciesism as moderators
to balance things since the 4 of you now all defend animal slaughter

Grace represents the true majority since she is antifur but not antimeat

and why don't you require truvenom to give his name
as you did Wayne... many banned members remember that
you told Wayne if he were to be moderator he would have to
give his real name




Who was the person who posted the KFC PR on IVU NEWS
for animal concerns?

Author:  josh knauer [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:53 pm ]
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arc108 wrote:
ARA's have volunteered to be moderators...
and they represent 90% of the population, not 4%

yet you have consistently turned them down Josh

Prove it... who has ever asked to be a moderator that I have turned down?

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Why don't you appoint Redfurrymonster, Ned Ludd, Grace and Nt Speciesism as moderators to balance things since the 4 of you now all defend animal slaughter

I don't recall any one of them volunteering... that's why we call them Volunteers... people have to volunteer.

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Grace represents the true majority since she is antifur but not antimeat

"true majority" of what? This is completely irrelevant for a feedback area.

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and why don't you require truvenom to give his name
as you did Wayne

I know TruVenom's real name and e-mail address. What's the problem?

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'you continue to rant in your incoherent fashion' said Josh

therby proving that my cosmic mirror is clear enough to show Josh' face

Yeah... that would be an example of one of your incoherent statements. It's comments like this that makes no one take you very seriously.

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Since AR- News is your product (animal rights news)
you seem to want to be all things to all people..

How is it "my" product?!? I don't have anything to do with AR-News. Perhaps you're spending too much time staring into cosmic mirrors?

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AR news (including KFC press releases!!!! and other slaughter concern press releases)) to animal rights people and hunter news to envirolink people

Huh?!? What the hell are you even talking about? Why are you posting it here? If you have a problem with something called AR News, why not take it up with whomever is in charge of it? I don't see anything on this forum called AR News.

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Who was the person who posted the KFC PR on IVU NEWS
for animal concerns?

I don't care as it has nothing to do with me or this Forum. Perhaps you can dig up one of your "Google starts all wars on the planet" stories to find some inspiration, as you are barking up the wrong tree here.

-josh

Author:  arc108 [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:16 pm ]
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I for one you have turned down

you said that Wayne would have to give his real name to be moderator
... a double standard re truvenom?

you say no one takes me seriously

have you ever had 4500 requests for information after a network appearance?
have you ever had a tv producer say that you broke the mail
records for their show?
have you ever won a federal lawsuit?
have you ever had your boycotts picked up in over 200 cities
around the world?
have you had your writing anthologized in books by animal rights professors?
has your work ever been cited in a front page Wall St Journal story?


you have sucked up to hunters in Pennsylvania since you began
... Pennsylvania which has more serial killers than any other state...
are you happy that you are so out of step with the teachings of your
temple? a temple which forbids the stalking of animals... a temple
which forbids hunting?
why do you bother to be a member of a temple whose teachings
you flout...


Who did the Animal Concerns mailing which promoted the KFC
entry into India, an entry immediately followed by disease
which prompted Air India to cancel all chicken and other meats
on its flights
Who posted this?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ivu-veg-news/message/9675

Author:  redfurrymonster84 [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:29 pm ]
Post subject: 

arc108 wrote:
ARA's have volunteered to be moderators...
and they represent 90% of the population, not 4%

yet you have consistently turned them down Josh

Why don't you appoint Redfurrymonster, Ned Ludd, Grace and Nt Speciesism as moderators
to balance things since the 4 of you now all defend animal slaughter

Grace represents the true majority since she is antifur but not antimeat

and why don't you require truvenom to give his name
as you did Wayne

'you continue to rant in your incoherent fashion' said Josh

therby proving that my cosmic mirror is clear enough to show Josh' face

Since AR- News is your product (animal rights news)
you seem to want to be all things to all people..
AR news (including KFC press releases!!!! and other slaughter concern
press releases)) to animal rights people
and hunter news to envirolink people

Who was the person who posted the KFC PR on IVU NEWS
for animal concerns?


I could not possibly mod this forum arc. I take part and help to many forums and sites the way it is and my interent time is being cut shorter... and I do not go to this place long enough to do so...

I think it would be good to balance things out and get one of them as a mod though.

Author:  Wayne Stollings [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:05 pm ]
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arc108 wrote:
and why don't you require truvenom to give his name
as you did Wayne


I was not required to use my name, but it was suggested that I not use the name I had. I had used my name originally on this forum and like the idea of being able to have enough conviction to continue to use it when I post.

Because I do, does not require any others to follow suit.

Author:  josh knauer [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:08 pm ]
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arc108 wrote:
I for one you have turned down

Hrmm... wonder why?

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you said that Wayne would have to give his real name to be moderator
... a double standard re truvenom?

I did not force Wayne to give his real name to be a moderator. Once again your view on reality is highly distorted. This is not your concern and has no bearing on the operation of this board.

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you say no one takes me seriously

Yes, i do.

Quote:
have you ever had 4500 requests for information after a network appearance?
have you ever had a tv producer say that you broke the mail
records for their show?
have you ever won a federal lawsuit?
have you ever had your boycotts picked up in over 200 cities
around the world?
have you had your writing anthologized in books by animal rights professors?
has your work ever been cited in a front page Wall St Journal story?

Clearly your best days are behind you.

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you have sucked up to hunters in Pennsylvania since you began
... Pennsylvania which has more serial killers than any other state...

Yep, I even recently shopped at the same store as a hunter, can you believe it?? Clearly I am guilty of... something.

Quote:
are you happy that you are so out of step with the teachings of your temple? a temple which forbids the stalking of animals... a temple
which forbids hunting?
why do you bother to be a member of a temple whose teachings
you flout...

What could your deluded views of religion possibly have to do with "Feedback for EnviroLink"??


Quote:
Who did the Animal Concerns mailing which promoted the KFC
entry into India, an entry immediately followed by disease
which prompted Air India to cancel all chicken and other meats
on its flights
Who posted this?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ivu-veg-news/message/9675

How am I supposed to know and what does this have to do with "Feedback to EnviroLink". Remember... posting off topic repeatedly will get you banned.

-josh

Author:  Wayne Stollings [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:30 pm ]
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arc108 wrote:
I for one you have turned down


I should hope so, given the firm grasp of the policies of the board. I have had to delete so many of your posts due to violations that I have made a standard Admin post template just for you.

Quote:
you said that Wayne would have to give his real name to be moderator
... a double standard re truvenom?


Nope, never happened and being the stubborn person I am I would have probably fought it if he had. I made the choice of my own free will.

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you say no one takes me seriously


As do I and many others ... mostly those who have read your ramblings.

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have you ever had 4500 requests for information after a network appearance?


Asking for some clarification so they can decipher what ever it was you were saying?

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have you ever had a tv producer say that you broke the mail
records for their show?


For public access TV on cable channel 2?

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have you ever won a federal lawsuit?


Yes, it was fun too. The Assistant US Attorney in charge was sooo nice. She even has given me legal advice form time to time ... where to look for something, who to talk to, and the like. Most of the folks at the DOJ were really nice, but I dislike the inside the belt line attitude of a lot of the folks in DC.


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have you ever had your boycotts picked up in over 200 cities
around the world?


Never had a boycott, I never had the need for one.

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have you had your writing anthologized in books by animal rights professors?


No, I am usually not the quoted pro-AR, however I have been asked to "straighten out" a couple of locals by their students and other professionals. Something about me not being afraid to debate anyone if I am prepared.

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has your work ever been cited in a front page Wall St Journal story?


Probably, but I never have kept up with that aspect. I believe many more people know me than I know and thus things happen of which I am not really following. :wink:

Want to compare resumes? How many times have you called the Head of the U.S. EPA unscheduled and had the call taken without waiting? How many major industries call you for assistance in monitoring their pollution levels? How many heads of State EPAs have told you that you were wrong in questioning their regulations and then apologized for being proved wrong? How many times has the DOJ called you and asked you to be an expert witness in major litigation? How many times have they begged you to be an expert witness in major litigation? Want to continue? I have much more if you like. I especially like the reaction when I have corrected ER doctors and they realize I was correct ..... :wink:

Author:  arc108 [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:01 pm ]
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please site the specifics ... in what area you consider yourself
an expert witness

what your federal lawsuit victory was about

what State EPA director apologized

what were you interacting with DOJ about and so forth

that particular show was a tv network show .. carried on one of the 4 major networks
.. in 95% of the markets

it seems, wayne, that like donnie you like to insult people

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