EnviroLink Forum

"It is difficult for you to recognize others' concern because your own is limited to AR philosophy. If someone doesn't share your views, it doesn't register with you that they are concerned. This is a shame."

-I understand what you're saying and it might be true with some people, but not with me. I can recognize concern for animals in others even if they don't share my philosophies. If you actually posted here to talk about your concern for animals, I would never question it. But I don't see you and most of the others here doing that. The only thing I see is AR bashing. If I wrote something in the animal forum right now, I would get a refute almost instantly. But nobody else has written here in days. So it is to my understanding that the majority of the people who post here, view the forum nearly every day and only reply to debate when someone says something pro-veg*an or pro-AR. What do you think? Is my conclusion totally off or what?
Just out of curiosity, how does environmentalism tie into anti-AR? Is it just because of this website or are there some other major elements involved?

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I knew over population was going to get in there somewhere.

Unfortunately, what oinks says is quite right with certain organisations. Thats kinda why I created my own help organisation as I know my own agenda. You know what I mean. I personally see myself as an AWA with a few AR tendencies, such as I think animal cruelty should carry a bigger sentence than it does. Although that could be AW... At the moment PETA is fairly infamous although I do stress that they do some good work although, for the amount of money, they should do a lot more. It has become a corporate charity.

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"Yes like I said it all boils down to morals. What you think is right doesn't make a person wrong because they think different " X-Black

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"Not to hurt our humble brethren (the animals) is our first duty to them, but to stop there is not enough. We have a higher mission - to be of service to them whenever they require it."

Saint Francis of Assisi