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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”― Chief Seattle
“Those Who Have the Privilege to Know Have the Duty to Act”…Albert Einstein

7billion more trees http://www.unep.org/billiontreecampaign ... s/eden.asp from one country alone
+ these efforts: http://www.unep.org/billiontreecampaign ... /index.asp

Here is an article with some explanation of methane release from the tundras. What it doesn't say is that atmospheric heat warms the oceans and they have much more methane hydrate.
http://www.independent.co.uk/environmen ... 06484.html

There's your "thermageddon" for you. Read it, people. Comment if you've got the guts---no one has for a month!!!

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”― Chief Seattle
“Those Who Have the Privilege to Know Have the Duty to Act”…Albert Einstein

From the Denver Post about a month ago: "Colorado State Forest Service Director Jeff Jahnke said 'Since 1988 the number of 1,000 acre or larger fires has QUADRUPLED. The typical fire burns six times more land, and the fire season is 78 days longer.'"

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”― Chief Seattle
“Those Who Have the Privilege to Know Have the Duty to Act”…Albert Einstein

From the reports, Russia is just cooking right now.

As we all know global warming happens when greenhouse gases (carbon dioxide, water vapor, nitrous oxide, and methane) trap heat and light from the sun in the earth’s atmosphere, which increases the temperature. We know that any living creatures can be hurt because of this and when someone cannot take it then most probably it can result to death. Surely, in the next hundreds of years the effect will getting worst and worst but hopefully people might do something in order to alter this. We should start within ourselves.

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”― Chief Seattle
“Those Who Have the Privilege to Know Have the Duty to Act”…Albert Einstein

There is little if any hope. Humans will populate and congregate themselves into oblivion. Stay clear of the cities or at least, live on the outskirts so you can get the hell out of dodge easily when necessary...and it will, perhaps, become necessary in our lifetime.

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TANG SOO!

There is more than enough difference between people as to be separate species. Most have more in common with chimpanzees than the top 3% in intelligence.
Two disasters are coming, the first is the population crash where the cities will get hit hardest, and survival will depend on remoteness and cooperative village living.
Hitting more and more will be malevolent climate change, with natural reactions already at tipping points that will extend to worsening conditions for hundreds of years. The perhaps a few areas, by luck of geography will be less hit, and many people will go to underground living. This disaster will destroy support ecosystems, and the change will be faster than most life can adapt. It will be up to several million years before conditions are again similar to this interglacial epoch. This Anthropocene Epoch marked by extinction of over 3/4s of species, but will any future paleoanthropologist or geologist even see it in the rock layers?
How long will humans last underground or in less grievously hit areas? Will these less badly hit areas stay that way? How long will underground nuclear reactors provide power for grow lights?
Will people last for more than a few hundred years? Will people be around when the last of the plastic on land and in the oceans finally breaks down in 50,000 years? Will the ecosystems and species that can adapt in time and survive, be helpful for human survival?
Our extinction is not 100% certain, but close.

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”― Chief Seattle
“Those Who Have the Privilege to Know Have the Duty to Act”…Albert Einstein

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TANG SOO!

The UN FAO is full of crap if they think the world can sustain growing enough for 8 billion to live.
With the rise from sustainable in 1910 to the 6.9 billion of now, soil depletion has been at an average of 1" loss per 10-12 years and significant humus/micronutient loss. That is 2/3rds of what there was back when humans were at a sustainable population. It is at a rate of 100 times average regeneration rate. It is similar with the use of aquifer water----2/3rds gone and being used at 100 times recharge rate, with major aquifers known to be gone by 2040 or before. It is also known that irrigation yields 6 times the amount of dry farming.
If the world were at a sustainable population, there would be no resource use over natural recharge and regeneration rates. But there has been, and since 1910.
Look at the percentage of people who are living on green power, having only one or no children to reduce population to sustainable, growing their own food with complete nutrition or getting it locally, and look at the percentage that are composting to make up for the soil loss.
People are not all the same happy family, but are interconnected through the global biosphere being polluted as a function of overpopulation. The overpopulation is being driven by the lowest spectrum of IQ, and those of even over average IQ but still too low to see the consequences of their actions in the future. Still too low to not be influenced by religious or cultural effects, or common selfish greed.
So what is the percentage of the population not having more than one child? What is the percentage of population living on solar or wind power? How about self built/installed independent systems? What is the percentage of the population who are the inventors of complex devices, scientists? What is the percentage of producers, to the percentage of service and non-producing people?
The world is full of sick, out of balance societies, with too few actually living sustainably in all ways. Various population groups are not equal at all, or anywhere near alike, except, unfortunately, genetically. Over-compassion is a human weakness, as is over-tolerance (like allowing a literal invasion of over-breeding, generally low IQ, hordes which will collapse a once great nation). Crowd tolerance is a negative genetic trait induced by crowded living over time. Ten thousand years ago only the crowd intolerance gene was present. The population was well below maximum sustainable, and when people felt crowded, they would move out to form another village. Now, there has been a vast increase in the human overcrowding syndrome, characterized by increased hostility, increased depressive illnesses, increased anxiety disorders, to the point of medications for them being pollutants in waterways (along with hormones for birth control trying to stem the cancerous growth). The developed crowd tolerance (which used to be a mainly Asian trait) has led to extreme overshoot of long term sustainable population, and with it, the attendant pollution and depletion of resources on a global scale.
Sustainability, and sustainable living, along with advanced biology and ecology are very difficult to teach to those of below 100 IQ. Even those with a modicum of knowledge about ecology most often do not apply the principles to themselves or humanity in general. The dumbing down of America has been documented and shows itself in fewer now "believing in" global warming (a scientific demonstrable fact) than just a few years ago.

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”― Chief Seattle
“Those Who Have the Privilege to Know Have the Duty to Act”…Albert Einstein

Yikes, that is some hefty debate!

I am sorry to stick my head in the sand but I just hope that I am not around when the planet descends into environmental chaos.