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The DEBATE is over, now we have 5 years to reduce HGHGs by 90%. I've done my part, now everyone else who is not on solar or other non-emissions power----get there!!

Now, FINALLY! I sure hope this passes!
http://www.enn.com/energy/article/44395

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”
― Chief Seattle

Too late for that. Stock up on ammo instead.

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TANG SOO!

I AM well stocked with ammo, etc.
It is a hell of a thing to know the consequences of inaction environmentally. I am glad I won't have to live through it, but how about my son and niece, born when there was still hope? Their hopes are being taken away by denialists.
What passing the tipping point of tundra methane release means is increasing and accelerating AGW effects. Ammo will only help for a while against desperate starving hordes. Eventually, everything you worked for, and the very flesh on your bones, is taken.
The time to stop the population crash was last century. The time to stop AGW before crossing the Rubicon of methane turnover is within the next few years. Continued fossil fuel burning will lead to the even worse runaway greenhouse sterilized Earth. That is the direction denialism and denialists are taking humanity and all the species on this planet.
It is hard to imagine such evil, whether from stubborn ignorance or greed.

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”
― Chief Seattle

Deniglicals forget that latest studies, and go for tired arguments from 6 years ago or more.
and this one: http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic ... lf-century

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”
― Chief Seattle

For the "deniglicals"!!!!!!!

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”
― Chief Seattle

there is a huge effect of the global warming on our earth that is the effect for our people.i think that there is also research is present on our scientist for the global warming...due to global warming there is also effect on our atmosphere.

the real dangers you are going to need protection from are in your walls and foundation... are you ready for the worst that Mother Nature can throw your way?

Repost: the NAS final report

http://nas-sites.org/americasclimatecho ... l-reports/

Depends. What's your idea of the worst? Mine is pretty intense and no, I am not prepared to survive it.

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TANG SOO!

That's not what the science says.

Several studies show that the anomalous long-lasting Russian heat wave in summer 2010, linked to a long-persistent blocking high, appears as a result of natural atmospheric variability.

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~Snowy123; Amateur Meteorologist and Climatologist.

The natural atmospheric variations will play a part in any weather, even that related to global warming unless something very drastic happens.

The claim made by Johnny was not related to anything the paper quoted would refute in any way.

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“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none”
Arthur Schopenhauer

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

Being caused by AGW and being caused by natural variability are two very different and separate entities.

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~Snowy123; Amateur Meteorologist and Climatologist.

No, they are not. The mechanism will be that of natural variations, but the situation would not have been the same without the artifical input. If the CO2 level had remained at ~280 ppm the natural variations would most probably not been the same as was seen.

Increased storms and droughts will also be the reuslt of the natural weather variations but again those variations are there partially as a result of the changing temperature, which is partially the result of the increased CO2 levels in the atmosphere.

Just as HIV never kills anyone, it does set the stage for the more natural causes such as pneumonia. That does not mean contracting HIV may not cause an early death, just that HIV will not be the final cause of death.

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“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none”
Arthur Schopenhauer

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

How did that natural variabilty cause the "peat bog fires of far beyond historic magnitude" without being related in any way to increased global warming or climate change?

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With friends like Guido, you will not have enemies for long.

“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none”
Arthur Schopenhauer

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

An unusual blocking high that is associated with natural variability.

The bolded section above is simply mere speculation.

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~Snowy123; Amateur Meteorologist and Climatologist.