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Author: | Wayne Stollings [ Sun May 27, 2012 5:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Global Warming |
Author: | Johhny Electriglide [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:54 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Global Warming |
You've said it all, Wayne, and I wonder why there is any argument at all. http://blog.nwf.org/wp-content/blogs.di ... arison.png I wonder at the stupidity of preventing meaningful carbon reductions and transition to emission free power and transport since 1992. People like this snow character preventing common knowledge from spreading. The power of ignorance and the fossil fuel industries and the industries like airlines they support. No one wants their bottom line cut into, and they only care about their own measly little world where they are made of gold and can be sold for ever greater amounts. Growth when we should have had negative growth. Growth when we should have transitioned to a steady state economy. It is just common wisdom that you should not use a resource faster than it can be replenished, or to pollute more than that can be absorbed or rendered harmless. There have been numerous warning cries, unheeded. Time is running out to change, or in the worst case they, the ignorant and greedy have held it back too long already. People like snow not only can go to hell, they will go to hell, IMHO. mgopilot mgopilot is offline Eco Warrior Join Date Jul 2005 Location 8,875' USA Posts 681 Default New study, rapid melting of the world's permafrost From the Denver Post 12-20-2005 "Global Warming is likely to melt 90 percent of the world's permafrost by 2100, according to a new study out of Boulder. Permafrost--permanently frozen soil--stretches across about 4 million square miles of the Northern Hemisphere but may disappear from half of that by 2050, according to David Lawrence, a National Center for Atmospheric Research scientist and lead author of a new paper published in the current issue of Geophysical Research Letters. The study was the first to probe the future of permafrost with a sophisticated computer model that includes the behavior of the atmosphere, oceans, land, sea ice, and soil, NCAR reported." From reports of the Siberian Tundra melting and releasing more and more methane, it is easy to see an acceleration of climate change that must happen. The seeming "stability" of the high temperatures of the last three years is illusory. Methane has 20 times the effect of heat trapping in the atmosphere as an equal unit of CO2. I expect future reports won't be better, unless emissions are greatly reduced. If only we would have started transitioning away from fossil fuels in the early 1980s, we wouldn't be facing worse than worst case scenarios. Here is some visual help: http://blogs.crikey.com.au/rooted/2012/ ... -accurate/ And along come people like snow to gum up the good work, what a sad person, of little intellect or foresight. |
Author: | Snowy123 [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Global Warming |
Author: | renewable guy [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:00 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Global Warming |
Author: | renewable guy [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:11 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Global Warming |
Author: | renewable guy [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:17 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Global Warming |
Author: | renewable guy [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Global Warming |
Hansen has shown the earth is experiencing change just with the temperature record. Its a very powerful yet simple and elegant paper showing what the earth is going through and where it has come from http://www.skepticalscience.com/Summary ... -2011.html 1951 to 1980 baseline. James Hansen is comparing the world regions anomalies to 2003 to 2011. I have read over this several times and get something new out of it each time. 1 sigma events occur 33% above and below a mean (or central point) 2 sigma events occur 2.43% above and below 3 sigma events occur .13% above and below if you look at fig 3 up in the rt hand corner are the percentages of the points lieing in the sigma ranges. sigma .........-3. -2...-1 ....0 .... +1...+2..+3 1955 0... 2... 45...32.... 20...1.....0 2010 0....1....15....18....34...18.. 13 2003.......6% 2004.......3% 2005.......5% 2006.......5% 2007.......5% 2008.......4% 2009.......6% 2010......11% 2011........8% The near normal distribution expected is close to what 1955 is. If you go back and look at 1965, and 1975 you will see similar numbers provided by Dr. James Hansen. +3 sigma is the very hot category. The sigmas are decreasing and the + sigmas are increasing all through the last decade which is the hottest decade in instrumental temperature history. http://www.skepticalscience.com/news.php?n=1242 |
Author: | renewable guy [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:11 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Global Warming |
Since I am new here I am hoping that my picture will come through. It gives a overall view of the radiation budget of the earth of where energy gets through or gets reradiatied back to earth. The text to help explain what is being shown is here. |
Author: | Wayne Stollings [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Global Warming |
Author: | Milton Banana [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:51 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Global Warming |
Just an observation. The spectrograph results posted above clearly show water vapor absorbs much more heat than CO2. |
Author: | Wayne Stollings [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:33 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Global Warming |
Author: | Milton Banana [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Global Warming |
Author: | Wayne Stollings [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Global Warming |
Author: | Snowy123 [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Global Warming |
Author: | Snowy123 [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Global Warming |
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