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Author:  Wayne Stollings [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  A conservative's view on climate science

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDNXuX6D ... r_embedded

Author:  Johhny Electriglide [ Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A conservative's view on climate science

There are too few green Teddy Roosevelt conservationist conservatives. The rest of the so-called conservatives embarrass me with their ignorance and denial. They deny AGW and overpopulation. The only good things they are for is stopping illegal immigration, deporting the illegals here, and fiscal conservatism with balancing the budget., which are very good, but we need much more.
Neither party embraces non-growth economics or population quality and quantity control. Even the Green Party doesn't. These are necessities to prevent the further erosion with eventual economic and ecological collapse of America. :shh: :x :-({|= :-# :x
No more 40 minute videos!!! :twisted:
Here is THIS conservative's (my) view; "If there is to be any hope of avoiding civilization-threatening climate disruption, the U.S. and other nations must act immediately and aggressively on an unprecedented scale. That means moving to emergency footing. War footing. "Hitler is on the march and our survival is at stake" footing. That simply won't be possible unless a critical mass of people are on board. It's not the kind of thing you can sneak in incrementally." =D> :clap: \:D/ :-k =; 8)

Author:  tsmg143 [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A conservative's view on climate science

This is a really good read for me. Thanks for posting this useful post.

Author:  Fosgate [ Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A conservative's view on climate science

Johhny Electriglide wrote:
Here is THIS conservative's (my) view; "If there is to be any hope of avoiding civilization-threatening climate disruption, the U.S. and other nations must act immediately and aggressively on an unprecedented scale.


True. Problem is, nowadays, folks are unwilling to give up luxuries, privileges, and most of all, rights, in exchange for a more robust, sustainable system. They want it all, right now, and they don't give a rat's ass about the consequences, especially if it's another generation having to cope with the results of actions that weren't their own. No, I don't mean you specifically, but rather that there are simply too many people like this in the world today.

Author:  Johhny Electriglide [ Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A conservative's view on climate science

So true, Fosgate. Population IS the multiplier of everything else;
http://www.postcarbon.org/Reader/PCRead ... lation.pdf
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Here is what we need in addition to renewables:

"GenIV Integral Fast Reactors can EAT nuclear waste! Indeed, today's nuclear waste suddenly becomes an invaluable ASSET — not problem — worth $30 trillion dollars! I've been looking for years for a source of reliable, baseload, cheap, abundant and plentiful electricity. (And did I mention reliable, not intermittent? )

I was once a nuclear sceptic. Now I'm a nuclear advocate. The difference was Dr Barry Brook. See his short summary here.

Sustainable Energy Choices for the 21st Century - YouTube

The bottom line is I wish renewables could do the job, but there are still too many hurdles. Dr Brook documents them all. As do the peak oil doomers. However, there's no doomer comeback for IFR's. They are THE silver bullet. Cheap, abundant electricity that can power the world until the sun expands and cooks this planet! Just today's nuclear waste could run the world for 500 years!"
from eclipsenow.com, but a synopsis of Hansen in "Storms of My Grandchildren".

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