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Author:  SfEP [ Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:00 am ]
Post subject:  Biodiversity needs slower population growth

Measures need to be taken to tackle human population growth and the increased use of natural resources to halt biodiversity loss. Strategies such as the development of new protected areas are not sufficient to stop global losss of species. Not easy topics to tackle, but getting more urgent all the time. See: http://ec.europa.eu/environment/integra ... 263na1.pdf

Author:  Johhny Electriglide [ Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Biodiversity needs slower population growth

Not only must human population growth be stopped, but reversed and as fast as possible. Having no kids for around 20 years, then one per family until a stable population of one billion is reached. Along with a 90% reduction if fossil fuel burning within a decade or less, with going to a steady state environmental economy.
A "limited" nuclear war might work, or putting one deep into Yellowstone and forcing a super-volcano eruption. Also, drilling and putting some in other seismic fracture zones, so it just seems like natural events which are already due.
Humans (in general) have shown an insane desire to keep growing while destroying the biosphere.
Otherwise, do nothing, or not enough, and the population will crash followed by thermageddon from CO2 to self-sustained methane releases, and an ELE worse than the dinosaur extinction event. :shock: ](*,) :x :-#

Author:  animal-friendly [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Biodiversity needs slower population growth

[quote="Johhny Electriglide"]Not only must human population growth be stopped, but reversed and as fast as possible. ...

A "limited" nuclear war might work, or putting one deep into Yellowstone and forcing a super-volcano eruption. Also, drilling and putting some in other seismic fracture zones, so it just seems like natural events which are already due.

Huh? Limited to where?

Author:  Johhny Electriglide [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Biodiversity needs slower population growth

animal-friendly wrote:
Johhny Electriglide wrote:
Not only must human population growth be stopped, but reversed and as fast as possible. ...

A "limited" nuclear war might work, or putting one deep into Yellowstone and forcing a super-volcano eruption. Also, drilling and putting some in other seismic fracture zones, so it just seems like natural events which are already due.

Huh? Limited to where?

The 500 world's largest cities, to stay at half the amount needed to cause a worse reaction---nuclear winter. Unlikely.
Otherwise, do nothing, or not enough, and the population will crash followed by thermageddon from CO2 to self-sustained methane releases, and an ELE worse than the dinosaur extinction event. A more likely scenario. Both "events" actually taking time, so the "frog in the pot of water coming to a boil" psychology of humans is present. Double whammy. 2030-2100, and 2300 to 3500AD. Recovery time to resequester carbon---~200K years. Recovery of biological diversity ~3 million years.
There is also the small possibility of a runaway greenhouse effect keeping the planet sterilized forever. :shock: =;
http://www.progressivesforimmigrationre ... ty-part-1/

Author:  Johhny Electriglide [ Mon May 26, 2014 5:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Biodiversity needs slower population growth

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A few years ago at Envirolink forums as Johhny Electriglide, I proposed that forcing the super-volcanic eruption of Yellowstone with strategically placed H-bombs of great size, to induce enough cooling in time to stop the Permian type methane turnover 95% ELE or even a runaway Venus Effect. Apparently, others either followed suit or thought it up independently
https://www.youtube....h?v=VMZbvrs51cg
That is from the day before this Earth Day. He makes the big mistake of putting in the HAARP conspiracy theory as the real cause instead of the fossil fueled industrialization and population stimulation into crash mode. Another mistake he makes is saying PETM caused a 95% extinction. PETM was not a true ELE with "only" 30% of species dying off. It was the Permian ELE that was 95%.
He mentions Yellowstone and the SE Asia (Toba) plans to use drilled nuclear bombs to force their eruptions. Along with why Al Gore didn't include the methane monster in his presentations. ("It would scare people too much").
The curve presentation is good, but not pro level. However, it IS easy to see what is happening.
Here is my 2011 post; Johhny Electriglide
Not only must human population growth be stopped, but reversed and as fast as possible. Having no kids for around 20 years, then one per family until a stable population of one billion is reached. Along with a 90% reduction if fossil fuel burning within a decade or less, with going to a steady state environmental economy.
A "limited" nuclear war might work, or putting one deep into Yellowstone and forcing a super-volcano eruption. Also, drilling and putting some in other seismic fracture zones, so it just seems like natural events which are already due.
Humans (in general) have shown an insane desire to keep growing while destroying the biosphere.
Otherwise, do nothing, or not enough, and the population will crash followed by thermageddon from CO2 to self-sustained methane releases, and an ELE worse than the dinosaur extinction event.

Author:  Johhny Electriglide [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Biodiversity needs slower population growth

animal-friendly wrote:
Johhny Electriglide wrote:
Not only must human population growth be stopped, but reversed and as fast as possible. ...

A "limited" nuclear war might work, or putting one deep into Yellowstone and forcing a super-volcano eruption. Also, drilling and putting some in other seismic fracture zones, so it just seems like natural events which are already due.

Huh? Limited to where?

5/11/2014 Yellowstone, Long Valley Super Volcano & Magnetic Field
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REHktXJpA7Y

For a geologic event to be beneficial to our long term survival along with the majority of other species, it must kill off most people and have enough long lasting aerosols to stop CAGW and return back the the end interglacial/ice age beginning zone. A Toba-like population bottleneck.
It doesn't matter if it is natural or induced by people. It is not far, geologically, from super eruption. For it to work for our species' survival, it would have to erupt before CAGW +momentum is greater than the volcanic cooling. It is the only way the methane monster can be killed, and 95+% ELE avoided, once the tipping point is crossed for the tundra methane self release, a positive feedback loop, that leads to thermageddon, as soon as by mid-century.

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