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Author:  Wayne Stollings [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:45 am ]
Post subject:  USDA's new Plant Hardiness Zone Map reflects warmer winters

http://news.consumerreports.org/home/20 ... e-map.html

At this time of year, most gardening activity is of the armchair variety. With the arrival of seed catalogs, it’s a good time to start planning what you’ll be planting in the Spring. But before you order any flowers or vegetables, consult the newly updated Plant Hardiness Zone Map because your zone may be warmer than you think. Compared to the 1990 map, the last time it was updated, zone boundaries have shifted by about 5 degrees F throughout much of the nation, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Author:  Wayne Stollings [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:16 am ]
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One picture can be worth a thousand words ......

Image

Author:  Johhny Electriglide [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:38 pm ]
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My friends in Minnesota are happy with a month longer growing season, not realizing the portent.
Here in Colorado, in the mountains, it is maybe another week or two, and the bark beetles are coming over the divide.
Habitats have gone right off the mountains. This is a bad year for most ski resorts, while last year was unusually good.
The mountains normally have more weather fluctuation, but the trend has been warmer summers, milder winters, and drier climate.
Many are happy they don't have to shovel as often, or have the longer growing time, just like there are those happier that the Arctic northwest passage is open more and longer.
The maps are certainly proof of AGW, still denied by the ignorant masses.

Author:  Johhny Electriglide [ Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:20 pm ]
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This year, instead of waiting for the "normal" last frost May 15, I began planting in late March, a month and a half early. We had not hard frosts after March 30, and two wet snowfalls of 3-4" each in April that melted and gave needed water. Of course, the mountains are known for their variability, but this is really something different. The rapidity of change noted by the Dept. of Agriculture, should be absolute proof of AGW and extrapolated, CAGW. At least they admit the climate of the USA has warmed 5*F since 1993.
What people have not been mentioning is that since 1950, oceanic acidification from human caused CO2 increase has killed 40% of phytoplankton. That is the source of 40% of our oxygen! (-16%)
People have also cut down 57% of the world's rainforests which supplied a similar percentage of our O2. (-27%)
http://www.rain-tree.com/facts.htm
Add them up and we have so far lost 43% of our planetary oxygen making ability(and CO2 absorption ability, similar). The rainforests are estimated to get to be 80-90% gone by 2025. Obviously, with continued burning and deforestation by humans, and breathing by all animal life and aerobic bacteria, the nearly 21% O2 we once had will begin falling, or already has.
It sure looks like 2050 will be +12*F(+6*C) and O2 down to 19% or less, roughly. The world's aquifers will be mostly drained, at least the one's around where most people live(loss of our Ogallala before 2040 will be devastating). Ocean level rise will have inundated places like Bangladesh. World good farm soil will be at over 80% loss, in depth, health, and area, from what it had been. People will be dying at the rate of 400 million per year, or more.
Glad I won't be around. Can't say they weren't warned. [-o< :neutral:

Author:  Johhny Electriglide [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:25 pm ]
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Wayne Stollings wrote:
One picture can be worth a thousand words ......

Image


Irrefutable..........yet anal retentives still won't get it! :razz: =P~ [-( #-o :mrgreen:

Author:  Johhny Electriglide [ Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:41 pm ]
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Johhny Electriglide wrote:
Wayne Stollings wrote:
One picture can be worth a thousand words ......

Image


Irrefutable..........yet anal retentives still won't get it! :razz: =P~ [-( #-o :mrgreen:

Like snowy who was probably here in 1980 when it was 5.5*F less, and for sure here from 1990 to this year when it went up 5*F according to the map, and people growing in Minnesota.
If the rat didn't feel it, he is numb. #-o :lol:

Author:  spot1234 [ Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:45 pm ]
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I wonder what excuses we will hear about this?

Author:  Tim the Plumber [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:54 am ]
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Johhny Electriglide wrote:
My friends in Minnesota are happy with a month longer growing season, not realizing the portent.
Here in Colorado, in the mountains, it is maybe another week or two, and the bark beetles are coming over the divide.
Habitats have gone right off the mountains. This is a bad year for most ski resorts, while last year was unusually good.
The mountains normally have more weather fluctuation, but the trend has been warmer summers, milder winters, and drier climate.
Many are happy they don't have to shovel as often, or have the longer growing time, just like there are those happier that the Arctic northwest passage is open more and longer.
The maps are certainly proof of AGW, still denied by the ignorant masses.


All those things, except for the ski lodge owners, are good things.

The IPCC says there will be no catastrophy from a little warming. Be happy.

Author:  Wayne Stollings [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:21 am ]
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Tim the Plumber wrote:
Johhny Electriglide wrote:
My friends in Minnesota are happy with a month longer growing season, not realizing the portent.
Here in Colorado, in the mountains, it is maybe another week or two, and the bark beetles are coming over the divide.
Habitats have gone right off the mountains. This is a bad year for most ski resorts, while last year was unusually good.
The mountains normally have more weather fluctuation, but the trend has been warmer summers, milder winters, and drier climate.
Many are happy they don't have to shovel as often, or have the longer growing time, just like there are those happier that the Arctic northwest passage is open more and longer.
The maps are certainly proof of AGW, still denied by the ignorant masses.


All those things, except for the ski lodge owners, are good things.


also except for the the loss of habitat, the influx of dangerous pests, and the loss of water storage for the millions who rely on that aspect for their water supply.

Quote:
The IPCC says there will be no catastrophy from a little warming. Be happy.


No, that seems to be your representation of what you have interpreted. Do you have any quotes to support this claim?

Author:  Wayne Stollings [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:22 am ]
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spot1234 wrote:
I wonder what excuses we will hear about this?



"don't worry, be happy"?

Author:  Johhny Electriglide [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:34 am ]
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Tell that to all the people who have lost homes in fires here, or lost loved ones in the east. All from AGW effects of worsening storms and increasing wildfires. Don't worry, be happy.......it is still a beautiful planet with much to love-----for the most part, so far. =P~

Author:  spot1234 [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:23 pm ]
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Johhny Electriglide wrote:
Tell that to all the people who have lost homes in fires here, or lost loved ones in the east. All from AGW effects of worsening storms and increasing wildfires. Don't worry, be happy.......it is still a beautiful planet with much to love-----for the most part, so far. =P~


Er move here; Its just a bit wet on second thought you might be safer where you are.

Author:  Johhny Electriglide [ Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:42 am ]
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Wayne Stollings wrote:
One picture can be worth a thousand words ......{except to the low brow deniglicals}

Image

Author:  Iowanic [ Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:25 am ]
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Plant hardiness shifts could speak to cetain crops yielding less.

Author:  Johhny Electriglide [ Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:02 am ]
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Iowanic wrote:
Plant hardiness shifts could speak to certain crops yielding less.

Actually, it speaks about which plants will even grow where, let alone yield anything but a dead seedling.

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