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That means absolutely nothing when someone is trying to determine the validity of a dataset. PMOD has uncorrected ERBE data in it during the ACRIM Gap, which gives the dataset its flat line over the last 30 years. I've already shown proof of this here:

http://www.acrim.com/images/earth_obs_ACRIM_Gap_4p.jpg

Note the ERBE/ERBS slope during the ACRIM gap is significantly different than the other measurements, because of its declining accuracy due to the effects from High Solar Magnetic Activity. This needs to be corrected. PMOD did not correct it, giving it its flat line over the last 30 years.

From the ACRIM website:

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But you were not trying to determine anything of the sort when you stated:



That is not supported by the facts and I pointed that out.



No, you have not. The ACRIM gap also included the high ACRIM I results and the low ACRIM II results relative to the other datasets.

http://www.acrim.com/images/earth_obs_ACRIM_Gap_4p.jpg



And the ACRIM diifferences were nothing? You take somethings as gospel and disbelieve everything else regardless of the logic or lack thereof.



Then the rest of the dataset used should match the ACRIM II and not PMOD correct?

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The huge graphic linked in the post compared sunspot data to ACRIM data in short term. I understood that sunspot data was not accurate for such short term comparisons. Anything on that from any other source than ACRIM?

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You do realize that PMOD used ACRIM II and then it switched to the VIRGO satellite to get the TSI measurements, right? You do also realize that the difference between these datasets was 2 w/m^2, right? Does this mean the PMOD dataset is not accurate, and we should throw that out as well?

http://www.acrim.com/images/earth_obs_fig27.jpg

http://www.acrim.com/images/earth_obs_fig5.jpg

You are trying to create a problem that isn't there.

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The high quality ERB/NIMBUS7 data agrees with it (the sunspot data), Wayne. ERBE/ERBS is all on its own with the slope of the TSI over the ACRIM Gap.

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The difference between the ACRIM I and ACRIM II was more than that was it not? You have the issue of the high ACRIM I and low ACRIM II to reconcile other than just using a portion of a model to merge the difference.

If the difference between the PMOD and ACRIM II is not an issue due to the low level of baseline shift between the two, what IS the concern with PMOD at that point?

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The gap is not the point as much as the differential between the ACRIM I stopping point and the ACRIM II starting point. The snippets of data over the gap are only important if the two sides are also correlated.

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From Figure 1 of the Scafetta and Willson paper, it is interesting to note that once this ERBE/ERBS error is corrected for in the PMOD dataset during the ACRIM gap, the PMOD dataset looks like the ACRIM dataset and other datasets with the increase in TSI between the minima of SC 21 and 22.

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It should also be noted that another TSI dataset, IRMB, agrees with ACRIM that TSI increased between the minima of SC 21 and 22, though not to the extent of ACRIM.

A is TSI measured by ACRIM, B is TSI measured by IRMB, and C is TSI measured by PMOD.

Image from Scafetta.

Scafetta concludes that over the last 40 years, if the ACRIM dataset were to be used, roughly 65-70% of the warming during this timeframe can be attributed to TSI.

If the IRMB dataset, a little more or less than 50% of the warming due to TSI. If PMOD is to be used, roughly 15% is solar induced. It should also be noted that there is an anomalous spike recently like in the 1940s in the Morberg reconstruction, so additional natural variability can be attributed to the temperature increase since 1970. Minimal contributation from CO2.

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The difference was not much more, around 3 w/m^2.


The concern rests with the data PMOD used during the ACRIM gap. The TSI measured by the sensors on the ERBE/ERBS had a totally different slope than the higher quality ERB/NIMBUS7 data during the ACRIM Gap. The faulty data from ERBE/ERBS makes PMOD have a flat line in the TSI measurements.

As Scafetta puts it,

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No, that is not very important. Records can easily be calibrated to match the old preceding data.

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Hey guys, TES is back up, and running.

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Notice the slope of IRMB is greater overall than the other two with a minimal drop at the gap.

The slope of the PMOD is ~flat prior to the gap and ~matches the ACRIM after with no drop at the gap.

The slope of ACRIM ~matches PMOD but with a significant drop at the gap.

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I would question his calculations on the warming attribute to TSI since his is the highest of the three composites.

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So calibrate the old records to match the PMOD .... The question then becomes which is the more accurate and how much calibration to do to each.

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