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What gaps? The one shown in this representation:

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Formation during nuclear tests

Must admit sometimes I learn something new when talking to you but I hardly ever learn that your right this is interesting;



Still it makes carbon 14 useless for your purpose after the mid 40s, I wonder if nuclear tests affect Beryllium 10 isotopes?



So your evidence is a blog that's so badly designed it hurts the eyes and has as its catch line; "OUR STRINGY UNIVERSE FROM A CONSERVATIVE VIEWPOINT" aren't you a bit embarrassed linking that?

Perhaps C-14 isotopes are useless for the mid to late-20th Century. Thanks for linking that up.

I don't think Be-10 isotopes would be impacted by it though, which show an even steeper decline in concentration over the 20th Century than the C-14 isotopes in the Usoskin et. al paper.

The point of the matter is that we have many lines of evidence that point to a rapidly brightening sun over the 20th Century, including the Geomagnetic AA Index, GCRs, Be-10 isotopes etc. so your statement about how solar activity could not have possibly risen during the time of the industrial revolution seems a bit on the unscientific side, don't you think?

BTW are you going to address the fact that the role of the sun in the IPCC was determined by one solar scientist who agreed with herself or not?

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There is a slight gap between the AA Index and temperatures in the early 20th Century.

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Interesting, thanks.

"You learn something new every day" is the old saying...

Have you published any papers? I found this paper on Google Scholar:

http://md1.csa.com/partners/viewrecord. ... cookie=yes

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Your claim that work about the geomagnetic aa index did not get many citations was not correct.

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Yes, that be me.

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No, I said the geomagnetic flux theory did not get much attention. The theory being the cause of the warming trend.

I thought the discussion was fairly clear context wise.

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We "know" this has to be wrong as it uses temperature reconstructions of Micheal Mann as evidence of the correllation between temperature and sunspot activity. Right?

http://cc.oulu.fi/~usoskin/personal/Sol ... lished.pdf

The current high level of solar activity may also have an impact on the terrestrial climate. We note a general similarity between our long-term SN reconstruction and different reconstructions of temperature [28,29]: (1) both SN and temperature show a slow decreasing trend just prior to 1900, followed by a steep rise that is unprecedented during the last millenium; (2) great minima in the SN data are accompanied by cool periods while the generally higher levels of solar activity between about 1100 and 1300 correspond to a relatively higher temperature (the medieval warm period) [30].

[28] M. E. Mann, R. S. Bradley, and M. K. Hughes, Geophys. Res. Lett. 26, 759 (1999).
[29] P. D. Jones, T. J. Osborn, and K. R. Briffa, Science 292, 662 (2001).

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Didn't the CERN experiments already show this effect, which also showed the nuclei were too few and too small to have the impact observed in the atmosphere? As I said, there is LESS evidence of the hypothesis you claim is more probable.

http://science.au.dk/en/news-and-events ... skydaekke/

Facts about the experiment

A chamber contains air with precisely balanced amounts of sulphur dioxide, ozone and water vapour irradiated with electrons. Sunlight is a necessary ingredient for aerosol formation in the natural atmosphere, and it is imitated in the climate chamber by a lamp that emits ultraviolet light. Natural atmospheric processes such as the formation of sulphuric acid are thus imitated, and these are an important ingredient in the aerosols. When electrons from the accelerator irradiate the air mixture, an increase takes place in the production of aerosols, which act as nuclei for the production of cloud droplets. In previous SKY experiments conducted by DTU Space in Copenhagen, cosmic radiation was simulated by gamma radiation, and the scientists saw here that the gamma rays could also form aerosols. In the new experiment with the energy-rich electrons from the ASTRID accelerator, there is much more resemblance to the cosmic rays that occur in nature.

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See, real science is more interesting then blog science. I will tell you what is scientific I don't know enough about the Geomagnetic AA index GCRs BE-10 isotopes to comment I would have to spend time learning about them to give a sensible response however I don't take your claims that they prove something at face value, the fact you cited changes carbon 14 as proof of something shows that not taking your claims at face value might be wise.

I think I know enough about your argument to explain it in laymans terms though and it's incorrect to say that you believe the sun is brightening. What you are claiming is that changes in the magnetic field are effecting cloud formation and in turn is affecting temperature not the TSI or total solar iridescence or the heat output of the sun which would be easy to measure. Your theory sounds plausible although it might not necessarily be true, my understanding is nobody has found a smoking gun, spectography is the smoking gun with CO2.

Mainstream opinion and my opinion is that while changes in the sun may possibly cause changes in climate therefore its worth studying the changes due to changes in CO2 concentrations are far greater. so manmade climate change is a real and pressing concern.

I thought the link was a sloppy webpage and explicitly has a agenda.

So can we say you know your S**t?

I had a job dealing with garbage as well, no papers were published a result though. You did not have to be very smart but I will tell you what; you don't need to go to the gym.

A bit, yes. I follow the idea of an expert as being one who knows that there is much he does not know. One of my "favorite" PhDs just publicly claimed in an email committee discussion of industry experts and governmental regulators that I did not know of which I spoke. He likes to use his degree as a club to get his way, but my experience and doing my homework makes it difficult for him as I ignore his club and deal with the facts. Shortly there after he wished to discuss the matter privately in order to admit his error. Some of the other committee members had already contacted me to inquire my recommendations for how they could implement my suggestions.

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In the paper they should have cited a reconstruction like Esper et. al instead of Mann et. al.

It does not really impact their conclusions though.

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They proved that the particles produced by GCRs were too small, but that doesn't mean that the particles can't grow to form CCNs. They also proved that Sulphuric Acid concentrations were too small to explain nucleation, which means that another substance must be responsible. It does not prove that the impact from Cosmic Rays is small by any means.

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