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Hello, I recently read a book Great Waves of Change by Marshall Vian Summers it was a awesome read that is free..and it really helps understand what is going on..and how to navigate it. I thought you might be interested as we are all feeling like you..:-)


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Hansen told us how to deal with AGW back in his TV Special in 2006. A 90% reduction in fossil fuel use within a decade.
In his book, "Storms of My Grandchildren" he said to immediately replace most coal fired power plants with Gen IV nuclear and the rest of our energy needs with solar, wind, and various hydro power. He also said population reduction is absolutely necessary to not only reduce energy demand, but depletion and other pollution.
So the answers have been out there a long time, and only selfish stupidity has kept them from being implemented in time.
If you read about the end results of insufficient action, there is no ability to adapt for the length of time thermageddon will affect the biosphere.
I suppose you can pray for an act of God type geological event, or prepare yourself spiritually for near future man caused calamities. [-o< :mrgreen:
This article says at present emissions rates we will definitely cross tipping points by 2024;
http://insideclimatenews.org/news/20140 ... one-xl-oil
and more on that tundra methane;
http://www.ipsnews.net/2013/02/thawing- ... l-warming/

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This one reminds me of an old friend from TES, August.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/denialnorway.html



AGW is epic in scope and long term repercussions:

The thing people as a whole don't get is how much emissions reductions must be done and how fast to avoid the worst possible outcome, an extinction of nearly 90% of life on Earth, including humans. HGHG emissions MUST reduce, by what ever means it takes, 90% in 3 to 11 years max, or that worst case is what faces future generations. 70% is from burning fossil fuels(40% COAL, 30% OIL) and 27% from slash and burn agriculture, and 3% from too many farm animals.
Other human pollution and depletion is bad, but not on this scale of consequences. It is already really, in all practical logic, to stop the human population die-off starting even as early as the 2030s and for sure by the late 2040s---after crossing tipping points of unstoppable natural positive feedback loops if emissions are not reduced enough in time. The pitiful survivors will face increasingly more miserable life as AETM approaches.
That is a higher morality that people must attain, where sustainability becomes a Holy Word and future generations mean more than the extra people and over use of resources now. A morality that decreasing emissions enough in time is the most important thing anyone, any group, any country, or any corporation can do. Education to reduce these emissions and still survive, get rid of selfish greed, and get rid of other beliefs and behaviors that hold humanity back from achieving the goal of continued life for ours and most other species.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/c ... ensitivity

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