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Where was the indignation of those like Milton when this was being discussed?

http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100309/ ... 4149a.html

Arriving at work on 5 March, Stanford University ecologist Paul Ehrlich found a rambling and highly profane voice message from someone identifying himself as John Q Public. In one of his more lucid moments, the caller labelled Ehrlich and his colleagues in the climate-science community as "progressive communists attempting to destroy America".

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Stephen Schneider, a climatologist at Stanford University in California who is on Inhofe's list and participated in the National Academy discussion, says he is urging colleagues to calm down and stick to the science. And he hopes that the Inhofe report — which says the scientists "violated fundamental ethical principles governing taxpayer-funded research and, in some cases, may have violated federal laws" — will spark a backlash. "If we don't have civil discourse, where reality rather than spin is the basis of decisions, how are we going to function as a society?" Schneider asks.

Yet Schneider himself compares Inhofe to the infamous Senator Joe McCarthy, who led the discredited campaign against communists during the 1950s

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Trying to learn about science from ignorant people writing political blogs seems par for course for some of the posters giving us less than good information.

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The portion of the science of climate change which seems to confuse the armcahir experts such as Milton, is the effect is a retention of energy. If the energy input were stable the tempertature increase would also be more stable in its rise. However, the solar output is not stable so the net effect is more energy retained than would have been without the additional GHGs. This does not mean there is some evidence of flawed science if the temperature does not track as they wish, but tracks with the solar output and retains more of that output over time. I know it is difficult for Milton to understand, but it may be of interest to anyone really trying to make a decision.

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Fence sitters we can thank Wayne for pointing out this guy is an economist. What does that suggest about the IPCC? Employing an economist to be a lead author in a IPCC Report. If the climatologists can't convince an economist what does that suggest? :-

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