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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:18 am 
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Fence sitters I think we need to review this subject.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/judeclement ... 8d752860e6

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It’s quite telling that COP21 took place in Paris. Western leaders, environmental groups, and international institutions are convinced that Europe is the model for the rest of the world to install more renewable energy and efficiency. Entered into force in 2005, Europe has been a mainstay of the failed Kyoto Protocol, the first agreement for country-by-country reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. And the European Union Energy Roadmap 2050 wants the EU to cut its emissions 80% below 1990 levels by 2050, setting milestones for reductions of the order of 40% by 2030 and 60% by 2040.

But, the truth is much different. Europe is a “green energy” basket case with surging prices, fleeing industry, falling economic and population growth, growing dependence on Russian energy, and rising “fuel poverty,” where even the Middle Class often can’t afford the most basic energy services. “Soaring energy costs make Europeans poor.”

To illustrate, Denmark and Germany are the proud wind capitals of Europe, but they also have the highest home electricity prices on Earth, 42 and 40 cents per kWh, respectively, against just 12.5 cents in the U.S. Germany has embarked on a $1.4 trillion energy transition (“Energiewende”) that has resulted in recent Der Spiegel headlines like: “Germany’s Energy Poverty: How Electricity Became a Luxury Good.”


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Predictably silently, higher cost electricity in Europe is killing tens of thousands of people a year, ”Excess Winter Deaths,” where older residents on fixed budgets in particular are forced to turn their heat down to avoid overly expensive utility bills. For example, there were 44,000 Excess Winter Deaths in England and Wales in 2014-2015 (see here). Critically, although we keep hearing about the dangers of a warmer world, “cold kills 20 times more people than heat.”

Europe’s industry is being ravaged by exorbitant energy costs: “Brussels fears European ‘industrial massacre’ sparked by energy costs.” The once-vaunted UK steel industry, for instance, has been decimated by higher cost electricity (see here), and annual production is down 15% to 12 million tonnes since 2007, now just yielding 1.5% of what mighty China does.


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Fence sitters I think we need to review this subject.

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It’s quite telling that COP21 took place in Paris. Western leaders, environmental groups, and international institutions are convinced that Europe is the model for the rest of the world to install more renewable energy and efficiency. Entered into force in 2005, Europe has been a mainstay of the failed Kyoto Protocol, the first agreement for country-by-country reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. And the European Union Energy Roadmap 2050 wants the EU to cut its emissions 80% below 1990 levels by 2050, setting milestones for reductions of the order of 40% by 2030 and 60% by 2040.

But, the truth is much different. Europe is a “green energy” basket case with surging prices, fleeing industry, falling economic and population growth, growing dependence on Russian energy, and rising “fuel poverty,” where even the Middle Class often can’t afford the most basic energy services. “Soaring energy costs make Europeans poor.”

To illustrate, Denmark and Germany are the proud wind capitals of Europe, but they also have the highest home electricity prices on Earth, 42 and 40 cents per kWh, respectively, against just 12.5 cents in the U.S. Germany has embarked on a $1.4 trillion energy transition (“Energiewende”) that has resulted in recent Der Spiegel headlines like: “Germany’s Energy Poverty: How Electricity Became a Luxury Good.”


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Europe’s industry is being ravaged by exorbitant energy costs: “Brussels fears European ‘industrial massacre’ sparked by energy costs.” The once-vaunted UK steel industry, for instance, has been decimated by higher cost electricity (see here), and annual production is down 15% to 12 million tonnes since 2007, now just yielding 1.5% of what mighty China does.


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No, those lies are brought to you by the fools such as Milton. For example this lie:

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Predictably silently, higher cost electricity in Europe is killing tens of thousands of people a year, ”Excess Winter Deaths,” where older residents on fixed budgets in particular are forced to turn their heat down to avoid overly expensive utility bills. For example, there were 44,000 Excess Winter Deaths in England and Wales in 2014-2015 (see here). Critically, although we keep hearing about the dangers of a warmer world, “cold kills 20 times more people than heat.”


When the actual source was checked we see the "Excess Winter Deaths" are not what is being touted.

Respiratory diseases were the underlying cause of death in more than a third of all excess winter deaths in 2014/15.

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In common with other countries, in England and Wales more people die in the winter than in the summer. This statistical bulletin presents provisional figures for excess winter deaths (EWD, also referred to as excess winter mortality – EWM) in England and Wales for the winter period 2014/15 and final figures for the winter period 2013/14. Historical trends from 1950/51 onwards are also provided for comparison. Figures are presented by sex, age, region and cause of death. Information on temperature and influenza incidence is also given to add context to the mortality figures.

Method for calculating excess winter mortality

Excess deaths

Johnson and Griffiths (2003) (97.4 Kb Pdf) investigated seasonal mortality and reported that historically, above average mortality is typically seen between December and March. Therefore, our standard method defines the winter period as December to March, and compares the number of deaths that occurred in this winter period with the average number of deaths occurring in the preceding August to November and the following April to July:

EWM = winter deaths - average non-winter deaths

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:39 am 
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And, our latest installment.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/03/02/t ... djustment/

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Forget homogenization, that is so 2010. If the pause is bothering you and your belief is that there must be more warming, we only need to find it in the data, then what you need is “Karlization”, named after director of the National Climatic Data Center, (now NCEI) Tom Karl who pulled a fast one this summer trying to adjust the past down, so the present would be warmer. The sleight of hand on this was so obvious that even warm-oriented scientists such as Michael Mann and Ben Santer co-authored a rebuttal paper that said Karl was dead wrong and the pause was real. There is now a congressional investigation into Mr. Karl’s apparently political actions disguised as science


So, they try to "adjust" the past down. They try to "adjust" the present up. That's not the fun part.

"The sleight of hand on this was so obvious that even warm-oriented scientists such as Michael Mann..." says its "dead wrong."

But, that's not even the good part. Mann says,"...the pause was real." Holy crap!!!!! :- :- :-

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:26 am 
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I'm going to wager a guess and say that Milton hasn't read through the Mears and Wentz paper, and the reasoning behind the new adjustments.

Satellite data has to constantly be revised to include orbital decay diurnal adjustments as a result of the satellites experiencing frictional effects from the Earth's atmosphere, slowing the satellites down as a result. What this essentially means is that the satellite is now measuring the brightness temperature at a time a few hours later than what it was, introducing a cool bias (i.e. at 6 pm instead of 2 pm) in the dataset. That artifact is not representative of what is actually taking place, and must be corrected.


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Milton does not read anything other than the blogs by Watts, Curry, or the like and does not understand what it going on as he repeats it.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:01 am 
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Fence sitters this is going to be fun.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/03/05/u ... -by-judge/

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PHOENIX — An organization that is questioning the research behind climate change will get another chance to demand to see the emails of two University of Arizona scientists.

The state Court of Appeals has overturned the ruling of a trial judge who said the university need not disclose 1,700 emails and other records from Jonathan Overpeck and Malcolm Hughes. Pima County Superior Court Judge James Marner had said the university did not abuse its discretion in concluding that disclosing the documents would not be in the best interests of the state.

But appellate Judge Joseph Howard, writing for the unanimous court, said it’s legally irrelevant what university officials thought was appropriate to disclose.

Howard said everyone involved in the case acknowledges the emails are public records. And he said state law has a presumption that all public records are subject to disclosure, with certain exceptions.

What that means, Howard wrote, is that trial judges must actually examine the records to determine whether making them public really would harm “the best interests of the state’’ as the university is claiming.


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As WUWT readers may know, Mann wrote the original Hockeystick paper in 1998 with Jonathan Overpeck and Malcolm Hughes, hence the MBH98 moniker. AEI and others have tried to get Mann’s emails from Penn State, but were blocked by political interventions claiming science would be harmed, among other things. Damn right it would, but not how they think.

Jonathan Overpeck demonstrates his heavy political bias on his own Twitter feed daily, and does Mann. If the emails are even remotely like the Twitter feeds of these two, it’s going to look very bad for their science indeed. Now comes the next wave of legal arguments.


And,

http://m.azdailysun.com/news/state-and- ... e904f.html
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Howard, writing for the court, said Arizona law expresses an “open access policy toward public records’’ and exists “to allow citizens to be informed about what their government is up to.’’


Nothing wrong with citizens being informed. Oh wait, climate science is comfortable concealing just about everything it does. Except their conclusions.
Emails are great fun. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:41 am 
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Another installment of just how dishonest can one be?

http://www.c3headlines.com/2016/03/sena ... bilty.html

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Bingo winner senator Whitehouse dinner

A green extremist politician of the progressive Democrat camp, who has pushed for the Obama administration to investigate those who challenge the climate science orthodoxy dogma, is richly awarded in the game of life.

Of course, his own family's enrichments must be entirely due to the luck of life's game known as 'Bingo' - for sure!

And for sure, his RICO intimidation and threats have nothing to do with with money from green sources regularly flowing into the family coffers, right?

"A major donor is Annenberg Foundation, known for its support of radical leftist and environmentalist projects. In particular, it funded Chicago Annenberg Challenge, guided by Barack Obama and Bill Ayers (a domestic terrorist leader, widely quoted as saying: “Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, Kill your parents.”" Source

Amazing, but true, the Senator's good 'fortune' must be all about that bingo-luck, and certainly there is absolutely noooo correlation regarding the favorable personal green connections with his pushing for the prosecution of 'deniers' as he calls them, right?

Oh, and by the way, color me stupidly skeptical on that idea too.

But let's cut him some slack - maybe the green Senator just does not realize he lives in the proverbial glass greenhouse and would be more believable if he wasn't smearing the windows of his own habitat.

Just say'n.

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And, another installment of I keep telling you this doesn't work and is a huge waste of tax payers money.

http://www.c3headlines.com/2016/03/sola ... oggle.html

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IvanpahThe list of failed U.S. taxpayer-funded green energy projects just keeps growing.

It is now being embarrassingly reported that the gigantic Ivanpah solar farm, which Google and NRG received huge subsidies for, is not producing the amount of energy contracted for.

The wealthy investors in the project are now requesting an extension of the time needed to prove the farm's output can even meet minimum levels agreed upon.
As this failed boondoggle is proving for U.S. taxpayers, sustainable, efficient and affordable green energy is not easy nor cheap. Deriving energy from the Sun is not "free" as activist proponents of non-fossil fuel sources claim.
And it's not only the U.S. that continues to experience terrible results from subsidized-green projects designed to enrich wealthy investors - here are recent examples of Australia and Spain, plus the ever-growing German Energiewende flop.
As has been well documented from multiple public sources over recent years, the establishment elites of power and wealth continue to easily waste taxpayer billions on questionable politically correct energy sources, instead of focusing those dollars for the basic research needed to make green energy a viable self-standing possibility.


This clean energy racket is always much more expensive than advertised. It never produces what they say it will produce, and always ends up driving up the cost of energy for everyone. The hardest hit by this is the poor, and those living on fixed incomes.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:56 am 
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I suppose when you do not have science on your side you can always go politics and attack the "elite" ...... what else is to be expected of someone who does not understand hoe the "hits" are counted here, though?

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Today's installment fence sitters.

http://iceagenow.info/nasa-shows-mass-i ... arge-gain/

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Antarctica is overall accumulating ice.

An increase in Antarctic snow accumulation is adding enough ice to outweigh the increased losses from the continent’s thinning glaciers, says this article on phys.org.

“Extra snowfall that began 10,000 years ago has been slowly accumulating on the ice sheet and compacting into solid ice over millennia,” the article continues.

As the snowfall compresses, it is “thickening the ice in East Antarctica and the interior of West Antarctica by an average of 0.7 inches (1.7 cm) per year. This small thickening, sustained over thousands of years and spread over the vast expanse of these sectors of Antarctica, corresponds to a very large gain of ice – enough to outweigh the losses from fast-flowing glaciers in other parts of the continent and reduce global sea level rise.”


But, but, but, this flies against the AGW theory. Yes, yes it does.

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Second installment fence sitters.

http://www.thegwpf.com/facing-prison-ru ... ment-case/

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His accuser, who cannot be named, is a science graduate. She says he besieged her with offensive messages, emails and texts in the 16 months she spent working with him. In February 2015, she gave police a cache of several thousand electronic messages as evidence. She says she rejected Pachauri’s “carnal and perverted” advances. “On many occasions, Dr Pachauri forcibly grabbed my body, hugged me, held my hands, kissed me and touched my body in an inappropriate manner,” she told police. From the emails, Pachauri appears enamoured of the woman. “I am yours for life,” he writes at one point; “I have never felt so overwhelmingly in love as I have been with you, and even though you gave me so much pain, I will always be your well-wisher and carry beautiful memories of the joyous moments between us, limited as they might have been,” he says in another. In emails, poems and messages, he professes undying love for her “in soul, mind and heart”. “I will go on a fast after a cricket match … I will break the fast only when you believe I love you with sincerity and unfathomable depth,” he wrote. “Please you are not to grab me and or kiss me,” the woman told Pachauri in one text. He replied: “I wish you would see the difference between something tender and loving and something crass and vulgar.” -


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Until now, Pachauri has said nothing about the case beyond denying all the charges, and claiming that his emails and computers had been hacked or misused. Now, however, in a series of emails with the Observer and in one meeting in London, he claims that his accuser was acting for money, and was probably set up to trap him by persons unknown. [...] He claims it would have been easy for someone to have assumed his identity and sent messages seemingly from him to her, without his knowledge. [...] Through her lawyers, the woman has told the Observer that there is no truth in Pachauri’s claim that computers were hacked, and that the Delhi police are also convinced there is no truth in it.


Oh yes the skeptics are behind all of this. :lol:

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Today's installment fence sitters.

http://iceagenow.info/nasa-shows-mass-i ... arge-gain/

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Antarctica is overall accumulating ice.

An increase in Antarctic snow accumulation is adding enough ice to outweigh the increased losses from the continent’s thinning glaciers, says this article on phys.org.

“Extra snowfall that began 10,000 years ago has been slowly accumulating on the ice sheet and compacting into solid ice over millennia,” the article continues.

As the snowfall compresses, it is “thickening the ice in East Antarctica and the interior of West Antarctica by an average of 0.7 inches (1.7 cm) per year. This small thickening, sustained over thousands of years and spread over the vast expanse of these sectors of Antarctica, corresponds to a very large gain of ice – enough to outweigh the losses from fast-flowing glaciers in other parts of the continent and reduce global sea level rise.”


But, but, but, this flies against the AGW theory. Yes, yes it does.


Only if you assume one study with significant difficulties is more accurate than all of the other similar studies ....


We're essentially in agreement with other studies that show an increase in ice discharge in the Antarctic Peninsula and the Thwaites and Pine Island region of West Antarctica," said Jay Zwally, a glaciologist with NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, and lead author of the study, which was published on Oct. 30 in the Journal of Glaciology. "Our main disagreement is for East Antarctica and the interior of West Antarctica - there, we see an ice gain that exceeds the losses in the other areas." Zwally added that his team "measured small height changes over large areas, as well as the large changes observed over smaller areas."

Scientists calculate how much the ice sheet is growing or shrinking from the changes in surface height that are measured by the satellite altimeters. In locations where the amount of new snowfall accumulating on an ice sheet is not equal to the ice flow downward and outward to the ocean, the surface height changes and the ice-sheet mass grows or shrinks.



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The study analyzed changes in the surface height of the Antarctic ice sheet measured by radar altimeters on two European Space Agency European Remote Sensing (ERS) satellites, spanning from 1992 to 2001, and by the laser altimeter on NASA's Ice, Cloud, and land Elevation Satellite (ICESat) from 2003 to 2008.



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"The new study highlights the difficulties of measuring the small changes in ice height happening in East Antarctica," said Ben Smith, a glaciologist with the University of Washington in Seattle who was not involved in Zwally's study.

"Doing altimetry accurately for very large areas is extraordinarily difficult, and there are measurements of snow accumulation that need to be done independently to understand what's happening in these places," Smith said.

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Fence sitters an update on a topic we've touched on before.

http://notrickszone.com/2016/03/29/euro ... qPx2O.dpbs

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FOCUS now cites a documentary film which is set to be broadcast this evening on European television station ARTE. The documentary presents how Europe’s electricity prices are spiraling out of control, and the horrible consequences this is having on the continent’s citizens.

40,000 dead from power being shut off

The situation, we are discovering, is far more disturbing than even the earlier worst case scenarios every imagined. FOCUS reports (emphasis added):


In 2014 in Europe there were about 40,000 winter deaths because millions of people were unable to pay for their electric bills – the so-called energy poverty currently impacts about ten percent of all Europeans. In the past 8 years the price of electricity in Europe has climbed by an average of 42 percent.”


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7 million German households in energy poverty FOCUS writes that the poor are the real victims of “socialist” Europe’s clean energy drive. In Bulgaria people see half of their income gobbled up by energy costs alone. In Spain 28 percent of the citizens live in “energy poverty”. In Germany, FOCUS writes, 7 million households are considered to be living in “energy poverty”. The consequences of energy poverty are profound: tens of thousands of deaths every year, millions losing their power.


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Rising tide of anger

The ARTE documentary reportedly shows how Europe’s citizens, including environmental activists, are becoming more worried and that electricity is now increasingly being called a “luxury product”. FOCUS adds:


Their anger is clearly palpable as indeed governments have deceived and disappointed many citizens, and they cannot cope with the protests.”


And, the drones, knuckledraggers, and Cultist want the same for this country.

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Installment number two.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/03/29/a ... itch-hunt/

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Unprecedented Coalition Vows To Defend Climate Change Progress Made Under President Obama And To Push The Next President For Even More Aggressive Action

NEW YORK – Attorney General Eric T. Schneiderman today joined Attorneys General from across the nation to announce an unprecedented coalition of top law enforcement officials committed to aggressively protecting and building upon the recent progress the United States has made in combatting climate change.

Attorneys General Schneiderman, William Sorrell of Vermont, George Jepsen of Connecticut, Brian E. Frosh of Maryland, Maura Healey of Massachusetts, Mark Herring of Virginia, and Claude Walker of the US Virgin Islands were joined by former Vice President Al Gore for the announcement in New York City. Today’s announcement took place during a one-day Attorneys General climate change conference, co-sponsored by Schneiderman and Sorrell.

The participating states are exploring working together on key climate change-related initiatives, such as ongoing and potential investigations into whether fossil fuel companies misled investors and the public on the impact of climate change on their businesses. In 2015, New York State reached a historic settlement with Peabody Energy – the world’s largest publicly traded coal company – concerning the company’s misleading financial statements and disclosures. New York is also investigating ExxonMobil for similar alleged conduct.


But, wait. Something is not right here. And, now the rest of the story.

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Last year, New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman announced that he had launched an investigation into fossil fuel companies regarding what the New York Times called “possible climate change lies.” The investigation was based entirely on a series of controversial articles written by researchers at the Columbia School of Journalism and InsideClimate News, which selectively pulled statements from company documents to suggest Exxon Mobil’s public policy advocacy was inconsistent with its own research.

Unsurprisingly, environmental activists embraced the articles, and even began an online campaign – complete with the hash tag #ExxonKnew on Twitter – to pressure state and federal officials to launch investigations into so-called “climate denial.” To date, they have succeeded in convincing Schneiderman as well as the attorneys general for California and Massachusetts.

But Democratic attorneys general from New Mexico, Washington, D.C., Rhode Island, Maine, Illinois, Virginia, Maryland, Connecticut, and Vermont – all of whom stood on the stage next to Al Gore today – refused to announce that they would be launching their own investigations. In fact, reporters covering the event struggled to find much of anything new in what the officials were promising. The Huffington Post even conceded that the AGs “were vague on what exactly they have planned.”


"Based on a series of controversial articles...."
"...selectively pulled statements..."
"...was inconsistent with its own research."
Other AG's on the stage refusing to participate.
"...vague on what exactly they have planned."


With all of this they still insist upon the attempt to criminalize skeptic positions.

Sounds like a bunch of Cultists who feel they have been out of the public eye for to long struggling for relevancy. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

And, I'll leave you with this final jewel.

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Legal experts have also questioned the merits of New York’s investigation. John Coffee, a law professor at Columbia University, told the New York Times that a “leading obstacle [to a conviction] would be the First Amendment, as climate change is a matter of robust public debate.”

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