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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:44 am 
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Did you miss me?


No, not having these misrepresentations to point out was like a vacation.

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Last week, I was asked in conversation: ‘Why is it that almost all these green schemes seem to end up as a fiasco?’ To which I replied: ‘You’ve only got one word wrong there. You can leave out the word “almost”.’

The truth is that every single green scheme the politicians have fallen for has proved to be a total fiasco: failing to achieve any of the results claimed for them and costing us more billions with every year that passes.


Unfortunately, it apprears he would not know the truth if it bit him on the butt.

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Consider the scandal of Drax in Yorkshire, until recently the largest, cleanest, most efficient coal-fired power station in Europe.

Now, thanks to an annual half-a-billion pounds of public subsidy, Drax has been switching from burning coal to millions of tons a year of wood pellets.
Absurdly, these are shipped 3,500 miles to Britain from the U.S., where vast acreages of virgin forest are being felled, supposedly to be replaced with new trees that will eventually soak up all the CO2 emitted by burning them.

Unfortunately, a bright spark has just pointed out in a report for a respected think-tank that it could take a replacement tree hundreds of years to grow to maturity — which would be far too long to have any supposed effect on any climate change. (It should be noted that the former coalition energy minister Chris Huhne, having been released from prison for perverting the course of justice over speeding points, became the European chairman of a firm called Zilkha Biomass, which makes its money supplying wood pellets from North America to Europe.)

The bottom line is that a new report has just confirmed that, far from reducing its CO2 footprint, Drax is now emitting more than it did when it was only burning coal.



There are no virgin forests being felled for wood pellets or any other fuel source, but why not try to mislead as much as possible?


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I've always said fence sitters its all about the money.


Really? How much do the fossil fuel people pay you to spread their lies?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:07 pm 
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Hundreds of years to grow trees?
On what planet does it take a tree centuries to grow big enough to be cut down?
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Scientists at this station in Greenland want you to believe the ice is melting at -34 degrees.

http://www.summitcamp.org/status/webcam/

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Milton Banana wrote:
Scientists at this station in Greenland want you to believe the ice is melting at -34 degrees.

http://www.summitcamp.org/status/webcam/


The camera says the ice is melting? It could be they are trying to "dumb down" the explanation for ice loss for folks like Milton. Ice (solid water) can go to vapor (gaseous water) without first turning to a liquid. It is called sublimation. In any case, without any reference, you seem to just be lost in trying to repeat what you think you heard.

http://www.chem.ucla.edu/~harding/IGOC/ ... ation.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublimati ... transition)

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http://nsidc.org/greenland-today/

The 2017 melt season was less intense than recent years, and was below average melt in the 1981 to 2010 reference period. Surface melting was particularly low in southeastern Greenland. In general, melting was limited to low elevations (below 1500 meters or 4900 feet) along the western and northeastern coastlines. Fewer melt days than average occurred along the Davis Strait and the interior melt pond region along the central western coast. As discussed below, the melt year ended with two significant late melt events in southeastern Greenland. The final 2017 melt event occurred at the end of October, covering the southeastern coast.

Overall, the 2017 melt season was the lowest since 1996. Although it began and ended with a few large melt events, the middle of the melt season through mid-July was below average—only briefly picking up intensity late in July through mid-August.

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