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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:14 pm 
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We should keep hoping, at least until it becomes even more obvious humans will not reduce emissions or population in time to prevent catastrophe worse than blowing Yellowstone.
To motivate climate activists, use optimism

By Heather Smith
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"So it turns out, hope is important.
Did we know that already? We sort of knew that already. But — according to a new study put together by researchers at George Mason University and Yale’s Climate Change Communication Project — hope is particularly critical as a motivator in the very doom-heavy world of climate change activism."
http://grist.org/climate-energy/to-moti ... aign=daily

I always thought the truth will set you free. Make it seem less severe so people will act to reduce emissions and population more? There are some who just have no hope. Intelligent young people screwed out of a job and wages by invaders allowed by corruption, and these kids know what is ahead and could go green if they had the money.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:43 pm 
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Bipartisan Leaders Make Economic Case for Fighting Climate Change
'Our findings show that if we continue on our current path many regions of the U.S. face the prospect of serious economic effects from climate change.'
By John H. Cushman Jr., InsideClimate News
Jun 24, 2014
"Climate inaction is "risky business," warns a new report by a bipartisan group of business and government leaders led by (from left) Michael Bloomberg, the former mayor of New York, Thomas Steyer, a political financier and climate activist, and Henry Paulson, the former U.S secretary of the treasury. Credit: NYC Mayor's Office, Fortune Live Media, Shealah Craighead for the White House

Businesses and governments around the country should begin now to prepare for a future in which precious timber is lost to ground fire, factory equipment is inundated or swept away by storms and flood, and it's impossible to work outside on many days because of the heat.

All of these ill effects of climate change will do serious harm to the national economy, said a new report, Risky Business, issued on Tuesday. As a result, companies and governments should start investing now in measures to both stave off the worst effects of climate and to adapt to them—or risk paying an astronomical price tag later."
http://insideclimatenews.org/carbon-cop ... ate-change

Overpopulation also has negative economic consequences. Who cares about economics when we have 9 years to reduce emissions 90% and start population reduction to mitigate the mathematically certain crash.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:05 pm 
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This simply must end!!!!

Government Subsidizes Fossil Fuel Industry With $20+ Billion in Taxpayer Money Each Year
Shakuntala Makhijani, Oil Change International | July 9, 2014 4:58 pm | Comments

"Oil Change International released a comprehensive report today on fossil fuel exploration and production subsidies in the U.S.—Cashing in on All of the Above: U.S. Fossil Fuel Production Subsidies Under Obama—which demonstrates that at a time when we need urgent action on climate change, the U.S. government is channeling huge and growing amounts of money to increasing discovery and production of oil, gas and coal. These federal and state subsidies totaled $21.6 billion in 2013.
oilFI“The ‘All of the Above’ energy strategy is not only climate denial—it’s climate denial that is funded with more than $20 billion in taxpayer support each year.” Photo credit: Oil Change International

Subsidies that promote fossil fuel exploration are particularly harmful and hypocritical. The world’s preeminent scientific institutions working on climate and energy have determined that the majority of the world’s existing fossil fuel reserves need to be left in the ground in order to avoid catastrophic climate impacts. In 2012, the International Energy Agency (IEA) warned that “no more than one-third of proven reserves of fossil fuels can be consumed prior to 2050 if the world is to achieve the two degree Celsius goal.” The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) reached a similar conclusion in its 2013 climate assessment.

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“The ‘All of the Above’ energy strategy is not only climate denial—it’s climate denial that is funded with more than $20 billion in taxpayer support each year.” said Steve Kretzmann, executive director of Oil Change International. “Until our representatives in Washington and around the country find the courage necessary to put people’s interests ahead of rich polluters, this theft of our tax dollars is likely to continue. The next step for saving the climate should be clear: stop funding fossils.”

Fossil fuel exploration subsidies are in direct conflict with these calls to restrict fossil fuel production and use. "
http://ecowatch.com/2014/07/09/governme ... b-85901709

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:46 am 
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I do agree with you Johhny Electriglide.

But how? Action or petition?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:23 pm 
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By both personal actions and petitions. There will be protests Friday and Saturday against this human wave attack on the USA. One aspect of the battle to save the biosphere is not only emissions reductions from stopping stupid aiding of the enemy and changing the way we live, it is reducing the quantity. Wood chippers would do the trick!
With all the corruption and bleeding heart selfishness with greed, it looks like the only way to stop the global terminal extinction events is to blow Yellowstone and/or Toba and Katla. To save the biosphere and bottleneck the human population like Toba did 74,600 years ago. A long enough volcanic winter to cool the AGW including its momentum, and start Resequestration of CO2 and CH4----at least a 7.5 year winter.
Then the glacial cycle will be restored and the beginnings of the ice age within 2K years. Species loss would be less than a major extinction and 60+% would make it to the next interglacial epoch, including humans. That is a best case scenario.
The worst case, that must be emphasized to politicians and people, is the rapid loss of our planetary biosphere, and virtually anything is better than that. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:15 pm 
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Survey Shows Americans Lead the World in Climate Denial

Brandon Baker | July 22, 2014 3:43 pm | Comments

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"Just a week after a nonprofit revealed that the U.S. is lagging behind other developed countries in energy efficiency, a research firm’s data shows that the nation is the leader in denying climate change."
http://ecowatch.com/...0ad26f-85901709
Then we have enviros out of touch, too;

The Silent Spring for today’s environmental activists, Earth Calling: A Climate Change Handbook for the 21st Century
"Here’s a page from a climate change handbook, Earth Calling:
Rather than looking at the crises we face as issues on a to-do list, we need to see beneath the words to the real messages trying to get through to us. We as a culture are unmatched at assembling facts and events into a mosaic of a condition-at-large and taking it on with hard work and a can-do attitude. We have giant hearts and giving and compassionate natures. Why isn’t this enough to motivate us to look more deeply, to make sense of this, and to demand change of our leaders and ourselves?
To begin to answer this, we need to understand how different this challenge is from anything we have ever faced before. We need to see this as a call to our spirits to awaken and look at the earth and our relationship to her differently. And we need to understand where things have come apart, where we are broken, and why and how we can fix ourselves, each other, and the conditions that are harming our planet.
We can all take a leaf out of Ellen Gunter and Ted Carter’s Earth Calling: A Climate Change Handbook—to see the interconnectedness of all things, understand the deeper truths about climate change and discover a roadmap for finding our own call to action."
http://ecowatch.com/...0ad26f-85901709
The bold statements are generally from the pre-1970 America. Since then, the dumbing down and multitudes allowed in who had nothing to do with winning WWII or going to the Moon. We have to dial one for English? We HAVE to "celebrate diversity"? How about celebrating biological diversity and not celebrating the huge human diversity, to the point of near speciation. The culture we had is being ruined also. It is sickening, to me. - See more at: http://www.altenergyshift.com/topic/132 ... RFtv7.dpuf

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:51 pm 
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Why I’m a Climate Change Alarmist
"Tragically, there’s a vast mismatch between our actions to date and what’s needed. This isn’t just another big environmental issue. When the ozone hole was discovered decades ago, the world got together and agreed to change the chemical used in making refrigerators cold. In hindsight, that seems incredibly easy compared to this. Climate change cuts to the core of who we are as a civilization and what kind of world we want to create for our kids. Perhaps understandably, that’s meant that a lot of smart people are really pessimistic about our future."
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense ... -303435821
Why our brains are wired to ignore climate change
"Some of the answers are familiar. Humans respond most urgently to threats that are present, concrete and definite — a mugger, say. But climate change is gradual, hard to observe and indefinite, at least in terms of its eventual magnitude and effects on our personal lives. Addressing it requires making palpable sacrifices now "
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... story.html
Personally, I think a lot of it has to do with the low world average IQ, extreme selfishness and greed, with lust and sloth.

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