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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:00 am 
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Researchers have found that six massive glaciers in West Antarctica are moving faster than they did 40 years ago, causing more ice to discharge into the ocean and global sea level to rise.

According to scientists, the amount of ice draining collectively from those half-dozen glaciers increased by 77% from 1973 to 2013.

The researchers studied the Pine Island, Thwaites, Haynes, Smith, Pope and Kohler glaciers, all of which discharge ice into a vast bay known as the Amundsen Sea Embayment in West Antarctica.

The amount of ice released by these six glaciers each year is comparable to the amount of ice draining from the entire Greenland Ice Sheet annually, Jeremie Mouginot, a glaciologist at University of California-Irvine (UC-Irvine), said.

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 1:17 pm 
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Recycling another dead thread. You're welcome.

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index ... llite-era/

http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-art ... ecords-oct

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/hom ... eaice.html

And, as usual a cursory investigation reveals this.

http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog ... f_con_job/

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On 25 March the US National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) and the British Antarctic Survey (BAS) jointly published a press statement declaring that the Wilkins Ice Shelf “has begun to collapse because of rapid climate change in a fast-warming region of Antarctica.” I’ve looked at relevant public data and I’m undecided whether this statement was a gross exaggeration, an inept interpretation of the evidence or borderline fraud, because I can see nothing about the collapse to indicate that it was anything but a natural event.

Firstly, there were no other reports of recent collapses in this part of the Antarctic during what the end of the (southern) summer melt period. If climate was the major cause then surely we would have seen other instances of ice shelf disintegration, shelves such as the nearby King George IV shelf or the several shelves along the Bellinghausen Sea just 500km to the west. Secondly and more importantly, there is nothing in the observational data to suggest a dramatic recent change in climatic conditions. The NSIDC/BAS press statement, grandly titled “Antarctic Ice Shelf Disintegration Underscores a Warming World”, said “In the past 50 years, the western Antarctic Peninsula has experienced the biggest temperature increase on Earth, rising by 0.5 degree Celsius (0.9 degree Fahrenheit) per decade.” By accident or design that press release omitted some very vital details about that increase, details that show the warming to have very minor effect and that the likely cause of recent temperature change is quite natural.

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 1:36 pm 
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Recycling another dead thread. You're welcome.

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index ... llite-era/

http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-art ... ecords-oct

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/hom ... eaice.html

And, as usual a cursory investigation reveals this.

http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog ... f_con_job/

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On 25 March the US National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) and the British Antarctic Survey (BAS) jointly published a press statement declaring that the Wilkins Ice Shelf “has begun to collapse because of rapid climate change in a fast-warming region of Antarctica.” I’ve looked at relevant public data and I’m undecided whether this statement was a gross exaggeration, an inept interpretation of the evidence or borderline fraud, because I can see nothing about the collapse to indicate that it was anything but a natural event.

Firstly, there were no other reports of recent collapses in this part of the Antarctic during what the end of the (southern) summer melt period. If climate was the major cause then surely we would have seen other instances of ice shelf disintegration, shelves such as the nearby King George IV shelf or the several shelves along the Bellinghausen Sea just 500km to the west. Secondly and more importantly, there is nothing in the observational data to suggest a dramatic recent change in climatic conditions. The NSIDC/BAS press statement, grandly titled “Antarctic Ice Shelf Disintegration Underscores a Warming World”, said “In the past 50 years, the western Antarctic Peninsula has experienced the biggest temperature increase on Earth, rising by 0.5 degree Celsius (0.9 degree Fahrenheit) per decade.” By accident or design that press release omitted some very vital details about that increase, details that show the warming to have very minor effect and that the likely cause of recent temperature change is quite natural.


Recycling papers from 2007 and 2009 to refute 2014 papers on glacier loss is pretty dead, but you are free to make yourself look as foolish as you like.

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 5:48 pm 
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I love it when the your science is old and mine is new argument is trotted out. This is without a doubt the most infantile tactic I've ever witnessed. :lol:

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Milton Banana wrote:
I love it when the your science is old and mine is new argument is trotted out. This is without a doubt the most infantile tactic I've ever witnessed. :lol:


I suppose you could believe that if you were so ignorant of science that you thought later papers with more date was somehow not a good as older papers with less data. Why not ingore the last few years when making a determination of a trend? Makes sense to you maybe, but few others.

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