EnviroLink Forum

Clathrate Gun to Our Heads
Page 3 of 3

Author:  Johhny Electriglide [ Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Clathrate Gun to Our Heads

Well, looks like methane releases north side of Alaska's coast, and most of the ice that was slush is gone, with numerous icebergs flowing out, also. The high ocean temperature anomalies have taken out Norwegian sensor readings, but the north side of Greenland is releasing copious methane, too. These warmer waters are setting off small exposed methane hydrate deposits from Svalbard to near the pole, but not in ESAS. We might be saved for a year or two after all. We have some time to go, but it doesn't look like we'll bust the 2012 Arctic ice volume minimum. It is when an 800' deep +1.25*C or more warming anomaly hits just one end of a 50 mile by one half mile methane clathrate deposit explosively releases, then the rest rips into a chain reaction explosive release from the mechanical force of the first section to blow. The resulting tsunami will also be destructive. Even if some or all is ignited by brave volunteers or automatic devices, the resulting heat and CO2 would continue runaway.
All the methane hydrate deposits should be considered as if it were silver fulminate. IMHO :mrgreen:

Author:  Johhny Electriglide [ Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Clathrate Gun to Our Heads

graphs show late August began a departure, methane maps began to show heavy amounts of methane being released in the Arctic, October saw reports from Alaskan Yupik fishermen of the ocean "boiling" as far as they could see, and the Siberian Times article on this year's Arctic Ocean and Kara Sea expedition, fountains by the hundreds reported from the 2011-14 expedition had turned into fountains up to over a kilometer wide by the thousands. Very heavy releases, totaling ~5GTs, until early this month abating 50% with Arctic full night for 4 months. Then, in the spring it will start where it left off in October. By this summer the fires will have been rampant and crops failing. It looks like exponential heat at +6*C 2028.7 (thanks to Dr. Malcolm Light, Dr. Guy McPherson, and Dr. Paul Beckwith). +12*C 2035, and slowing with 100% humidity and 200,000 foot thick clouds, to thermal max +14*C over pre-industrial by 2080. 100,0000 years of gradual cool down, and 5 million years for re-evolution of surface life. It may be possible to stop it within two years with something like this https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/uturun ... lcano.html

This spring will herald a new era of people actually experiencing many more negative effects of abrupt heat gain induced by human overpopulation's demands. From CO2 +>1.5*C global, + 5*C Arctic. The Arctic is in heat anomalies of 7-12*C right now, and CONUS is +8*C in places, Canada, too. The food prices will climb abruptly next year's northern hemisphere fall. It will continue to few crops at all by only 2024. The +6* point is considered extinction of surface life except for extremophiles. Faster and bigger than any other ELE in Earth geologic history. Thanks to deniers and ignorance, lust and greed.
No one is complaining yet. Except where fires are going on right now.

Author:  Johhny Electriglide [ Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Clathrate Gun to Our Heads

World sea ice is continuing collapse. Arctic methane is releasing steadily.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/12/1 ... -to-do-now

"Temperatures have been only a few degrees above freezing when -25C should be expected"
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... scientists

Author:  Johhny Electriglide [ Sun May 14, 2017 9:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Clathrate Gun to Our Heads

Here is an interesting article from a while ago; http://www.physics.rutgers.edu/~karin/1 ... drates.pdf

The methane map from the beginning of the month showed a real slowdown in methane releases. This is something I am watching. If methane was in runaway, this probably would not happen. I was expecting an increase with the sun hitting up there. If it has gone to lower another month, then I can say we are not yet in methane runaway from the open ocean runaway in the Arctic that does indeed exist. It is a large kinetic release that could start it all at any time, that we look for, maybe this fall or next, I hope, the longer the better. There are those who seem like they would like it to be in a faster runaway than it is. This is a geologic event and trying to translate it to human lifespan times is very difficult. Many think the clathrate gun has gone off, but I don't. When it does go off, we have 4 years left on the surface. IMEO.

Author:  Johhny Electriglide [ Sun Jul 09, 2017 3:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Clathrate Gun to Our Heads


that is scientific, but this is journalism; "The Uninhabitable Earth
Famine, economic collapse, a sun that cooks us: What climate change could wreak — sooner than you think."
By David Wallace-Wells
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... umans.html

Page 3 of 3 All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group