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| Author: | Bob-a-rama [ Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Why do global warming people never mention these things? |
| Author: | Johhny Electriglide [ Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Why do global warming people never mention these things? |
Hi, Bob. Overpopulation has been the elephant in the room since 1966. Nixon addressed the gutless democrats on it in 1969, and no one since. If we would have led the world with one child families back then, the CO2 from overpopulation's demands would not have been so high. Now we have 6.8 billion Hiroshima size atom bombs worth of heat added to the oceans, and gaining 5 per second. It has been melting the sea ice of the Arctic since 1980, and the PIOMAS projection is for zero ice 2024. Latent heat should then add (in two to three years) 1*F to the already warmed 1*F ocean water at 50m deep in ESAS, where it has been scientifically quantified to have 1400GTs of methane clathrate deposits, many adjacent to each other, which will begin almost explosive expansion 164 times in volume, and reach the atmosphere as a ghg 100 times CO2 the first year. Well over enough to cause global heat gain to thermal max at more than 1/2*C per year, adding to the +1.75*C from 1750 baseline we have now. 5 years after zero ice and two or three years into runaway methane releases, crops will start failing globally, with the southern hemisphere lagging 18 months. Then heat gain will continue to the beginning of extinction of surface life a couple years later. Lagging to ocean extinction. Thermal max will be at 100% humidity and 100% global cloud cover at about +14*C from 1750, and last over 100K years, until deep ocean cold eventually stops it. The coastal Canfield SO2 oceans, continuous storms and methane releases earlier in the episode. When the clouds open up, cyanobacteria will take several million years to restore oxygen and more to re-evolve surface life. The only two things I see that can stop methane runaway are a man made, with buried H bombs, "Toba Event", or Divine Intervention by God. The "Toba Event" has prerequisites and post requisites that need to be done successfully to keep the melt from coming back, done by the 70 million or so underground survivors of the 6 to 11 year global winter required. You will not find many "global warming" people talking about this radical action, but in the time left before methane runaway, the choice is limited to these two. Otherwise it will probably be a worse than Permian style ELE. In the meantime people should still do everything they can to lower emissions, eco footprints and population. If you are not an atheist, pray for Divine Intervention, in addition to strength and guidance in lowering your eco-footprint significantly. (The guy below is a real corker!) |
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| Author: | Harthos [ Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Why do global warming people never mention these things? |
Overpopulation is a myth. According to the U.N. Population Database, the world’s population in 2010 will be 6,908,688,000. The landmass of Texas is 268,820 sq mi (7,494,271,488,000 sq ft). So, divide 7,494,271,488,000 sq ft by 6,908,688,000 people, and you get 1084.76 sq ft/person. That’s approximately a 33′ x 33′ plot of land for every person on the planet, enough space for a town house. Given an average four person family, every family would have a 66′ x 66′ plot of land, which would comfortably provide a single family home and yard — and all of them fit on a landmass the size of Texas. Admittedly, it’d basically be one massive subdivision, but Texas is a tiny portion of the inhabitable Earth. https://overpopulationisamyth.com/episo ... of-a-myth/ |
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| Author: | Wayne Stollings [ Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Why do global warming people never mention these things? |
| Author: | Bob-a-rama [ Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Why do global warming people never mention these things? |
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