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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:23 pm 
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Johhny Electriglide wrote:
It is a bummer that so much fraud has gone on. Looking at the graph showing Arctic sea ice collapse, the tipping point of methane turnover, was 1980, and 40years for CO2 momentum puts zero global emissions should have been 1940 and population control globally should have started in 1880. So, who are you going to blame? When it was known, Nixon addressed the democratic congress, who with Carter chickened out on doing anything to lower the polluting US overpopulation, and leading the world back in 1969. Then Earth Day One and on with no rapid population reduction strategy and too late to stop methane runaway by easier methods than the present aerosol event 20% larger than Toba and its dismal 1% survival rate, 11 year global winter with caveats. Still, that is within the dormancy ability and actually much better than an extinction event worse than the Permian.

Who has the balls to do a Toba event with important caveats? Who has real knowledge and understanding of the East Siberian Arctic Slope methane clathrate deposits? Latent heat, solar thermal gain, open ocean effect with allowing for winter heat loss means clathrate ice cage failure and sudden release of methane 164 times in volume at 50 meters deep, 2023, in effect initiating a runaway process as irreversible, once started, as the firing of a gun. Who has 1250MGTs of H Bombs and the dedication to the species of Earth to use them to lift to the stratosphere 1,000 cubic miles of aerosols and restore the biosphere while the ESAS is kept refrozen?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:25 am 
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Bob-a-rama wrote:
I'm an older guy, but I lean with the more progressives like Bernie, AOC and the like. I guess I never stopped being a hippie. The media didn't turn me into the 'me generation'.

I've seen well over 90% of the wildlife disappear from the Everglades. In ponds where there used to be thousands of wading birds, I can now count fewer than 10.

The lagoon where the fish used to almost jump in your boat is all but dead now. I don't fish it any more, but when my neighbor actually catches one, which is rare, it has tumors on it and it gets thrown back in the water.

We need the new green deal, but of course, corporate profits are at stake so there is a lot of propaganda disguised as news out there.

Capitalism has failed us. I don't know how to fix it, communism wasn't the answer, but capitalism depends on infinite growth, and we can't have infinite growth in a closed system.

Humans are like an algae bloom, but in slow motion, and we are killing our host 'pond', the Earth, and there is no where to go when we kill this one.

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Rejoining the Paris Climate Agreement yesterday is a good start, at the same time more than just the Paris Agreement has to be done to avert some of the more significant impacts from climate change down the road. And Biden does have more in mind than just rejoining the Paris Agreement. Biden's plan is pretty good overall when it comes to climate, but it is still shy of the Green New Deal.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:46 am 
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Snowy123 wrote:
Rejoining the Paris Climate Agreement yesterday is a good start, at the same time more than just the Paris Agreement has to be done to avert some of the more significant impacts from climate change down the road. And Biden does have more in mind than just rejoining the Paris Agreement. Biden's plan is pretty good overall when it comes to climate, but it is still shy of the Green New Deal.

I agree. It's a great improvement over the environmental record of the previous administration, though not as much as many of us have wished for.

Still, IMHO it's a giant step in the right direction.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:41 pm 
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Approving 31 new oil drilling projects, and allowing in millions more people in an already overpopulated US is no way to reduce emissions. Another corporate bought environmental phony.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:05 pm 
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True, but the lesser of the two evils that were put before us.

I used to vote 3rd party if I didn't like either, but I realized it's more important to vote for the lesser of the two evils.


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