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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:48 am 
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We are living in a world where people cannot even solve personal and family problems and they are trying to solve national and international problems........We are living in a world where people cannot even control their body weight and need drugs to control their minds and they are trying to solve global problems........We live in a world where even marriage agreements are not working and people are trying to make international agreements work.

All problems of industrial society are unsolvable because industrialization itself is the cause of problems.......All problems of industrial society have either been created by industrialization or worsened by industrialization.........Problems of industrial society can go away only when industrial society goes away.

Solution does not come from solving the problem.
Solution comes from not creating the problem.
When you don't create the problem the solution happens automatically.

smaller the system the more stable it is.
larger the system the more unstable it is.

Industrial society is ungovernable, unmanageable, unsustainable.

Industrial society is committing mass suicide after mass murder on earth.......Industrial man is decimating himself after decimating millions of land and marine species........Millions of other species destroyed environment only for food.......Industrial man has destroyed environment for food, clothing, shelter PLUS thousands of consumer goods and services.......Industrial man has destroyed Exponential Extra Environment.......Industrial society has barely existed for hundred years during which it has destroyed forests, rivers, oceans, atmosphere and decimated millions of species.

Everything that is happening in industrial society is wrong.......Every single thing.......Industrial society is ungovernable, unmanageable, unsustainable......Industrial society must be eradicated, abolished, dismantled immediately.
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Millions of other species destroyed environment only for food.

Forest man destroyed environment only for food.

Agrarian man destroyed environment for food, clothing and shelter.

Industrial man has destroyed environment for food, clothing, shelter PLUS thousands of consumer goods and services.

Industrial man has destroyed Exponential Extra Environment.

EXPONENTIAL EXTRA ENVIRONMENT.

(It is the urban population of industrial society that has destroyed exponential extra environment)

The collective work of human society must be limited to food, clothing and shelter.........Millions of other species only get food from earth.

Millions of other species have already been decimated by industrial activity.........Man is next on the list........Human collapse will come with lightning speed now.
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Man has spent more than 99.9% of his time on earth in non-industrial societies.

Man lived in forests for hundreds of thousands of years........Man lived in villages in agrarian society for 10,000 years........Man has lived in industrial society for just about 100 years during which he has destroyed the entire planet.

If Urban Society stops its supplies to Rural Society it will live forever.
If Rural Society stops its supplies to Urban Society it will die within a month.
That is the worth of Urban Jobs, Consumer Goods, Growth Rate, Economy Rate and GDP.

Industrialization was the biggest crime on earth.
Agrarian society was the limit for man on earth.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:29 pm 
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How does society deal with criminals?......It forcibly stops their destructive work, puts them in prison and gives them food for free......What do you do when 50% of world population is criminal and this population is also running the system???

The entire urban population of industrial society is criminal.......Urban work is criminal........Urban jobs and professions have destroyed exponential extra environment.......Production of thousands of consumer goods and services by urban population has led to destruction of forests, rivers, oceans and atmosphere.

The planet is dying and gasping for last breath......Stop urban work for production of thousands of consumer goods.......Give free food to urban population.......A fraction of world population is already producing food for entire population.

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For hundred years the urban population of industrial society has been fooling the non-urban population with figures and terminologies.......Progress, Development, Growth Rate, Economy Rate, GDP.

If Urban Society stops its supplies to Rural Society it will live forever.
If Rural Society stops its supplies to Urban Society it will die within a month.
That is the worth of Urban Jobs, Consumer Goods, Growth Rate, Economy Rate and GDP.

Urban jobs and professions have destroyed the planet.
The entire urban population of industrial society is criminal.
The crime goes unchecked because 50% of population is now urban.
The crime goes unchecked because urban population is running the system.

The food of millions of other species does not come from money.........Only the food of human species comes from money.........Industrial society has created a criminal system where food comes from money........This has led to a tragic situation where the farmer who is producing food is starving to death because he doesn't have money to buy food whereas the parasitic urban population which is not even producing food has grown obese from overeating because it has got tonnes of money to buy food.
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For millions of years there was just one main activity / occupation on earth - "Searching for Food" / "Producing Food"..........Urban population of industrial society is the anomaly that is producing consumer goods and services.

For millions of years, both adults and the offspring of millions of animal species "searched for food".

For hundreds of thousands of years in hunter_gatherer society both adults and children "searched for food".

For 10,000 years in agrarian society, most of the adults and children "produced food"

In industrial society which has only existed for 100 years, urban adults are producing consumer goods and services in industries and corporations..........Their children go to schools and universities where they learn how to produce and sell consumer goods in future.
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Millions of other species destroyed environment only for food.

Forest man destroyed environment only for food.

Agrarian man destroyed environment for food, clothing and shelter.

Industrial man has destroyed environment for food, clothing, shelter PLUS thousands of consumer goods and services.

Industrial man has destroyed Exponential Extra Environment.

EXPONENTIAL EXTRA ENVIRONMENT.

(It is the urban population of industrial society that has destroyed exponential extra environment)

The collective work of human society must be limited to food, clothing and shelter.........Millions of other species only get food from earth.

Millions of other species have already been decimated by industrial activity.........Man is next on the list........Human collapse will come with lightning speed now.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:42 am 
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Industrial governments holding conferences to stop Climate Change.

It is like the Weapon Industry holding a conference to stop Wars.
It is like the Fast Food Industry holding a conference to stop Obesity.
It is like the Tobacco Industry holding a conference to stop Smoking.
It is like the Alcohol Industry holding a conference to stop Drinking.

It is like Petrol trying to extinguish Fire.

Climate Agreement will save environment just like Coalition of the Willing saved Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan..........The term "Clean Energy" is like the term "Peaceful War"..........Every method of energy production destroys environment........Electricity produced by any method is further used by millions of industries and corporations that destroy more environment.

Choosing between Fossil Energy and Alternative Energy is like choosing between Cruise Missiles and Drone Attacks.

Clean Energy will save environment from Fossil Fuel just like Communism and Socialism saved the world from Capitalism.

How do solar panels and wind turbines come into existence........Are they being imported from Mars???..........Production of solar panels and wind turbines requires Mining Industry, Manufacturing Industry, Electricity Industry, Transportation Industry, .......All these industries are big destroyers of environment.

Production of electricity destroys environment......Use of electricity destroys more environment.......Electricity (produced by any method) is used to run Mining Industry, Manufacturing Industry, Construction Industry, Oil Industry, Automobile Industry, Rail Industry, Airline and Shipping Industry, Meat and Fishing Industry.......All these industries have collectively destroyed the environment and planet.

All industrial activity is interlinked and interdependent........Every industry promotes other destructive industries.

It is not Fossil Fuel that has destroyed environment ........It is the production of thousands of consumer goods and services that has destroyed environment.

Can you save environment by reducing global emissions by 20% while increasing hundreds of other industrial activities???

Can you stop wars by reducing production of one weapon by 20% while increasing production of hundreds of other weapons???

If people are getting killed by Knives, Guns, Machine Guns, Tanks, Carpet Bombing, Cruise Missiles and Drone Attacks, can you save them by reducing just one kind of attack by 20%???

How can industrial governments ever save environment when they are destroying more and more environment by promoting Growth Rate, Economy Rate and GDP???

Millions of other species destroyed environment only for food.........Industrial man has destroyed environment for food, clothing, shelter plus thousands of consumer goods and services.

Industrial society is a lunatic society that is talking about saving environment by destroying exponential extra environment.

Height of Insanity.........Insanity raised to the power of Infinity.

Environment can only be saved by stopping the extra destruction of environment for thousands of consumer goods and services.

How was environment saved for millions of years before industrialization........Was it saved by Global Conferences???

For millions of years environment was not saved by Environmental Organizations, Activism, Money, Technology or Debate.

It was saved by the absence of industrial activity for production of consumer goods.
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CLIMATE CHANGE IS ONLY ONE PART OF ENVIRONMENTAL DESTRUCTION..............ENVIRONMENTAL DESTRUCTION IS MUCH BIGGER THAN JUST CLIMATE CHANGE.

Industrial society has destroyed the planet with Mining Industry, Logging Industry, Manufacturing Industry,Construction Industry, Electricity Industry, Oil Industry, Automobile Industry, Rail Industry, Airline Industry, Shipping Industry, Meat and Fishing industry.

If you want to save environment you have to stop all these industries.

Hundred years of industrial activity has destroyed what was created by nature in millions of years.

Industrialization = Destruction of forests, rivers, oceans and atmosphere.
Industrialization = Torture, slaughter and decimation of millions of species.
Industrialization = Billions of tonnes of plastic waste and chemical waste.
Industrialization = Billions of tonnes of gaseous waste and ewaste.
Industrialization = Butchering of billions of animals in industrial slaughter houses.
Industrialization = Killing of billions of acres of fertile soil with cement & concrete.
Industrialization = Poisoning of planet with nuclear waste for 50,000 years.
Industrialization = Decimation of fish in the oceans by industrial fishing.
Industrialization = Acidification and warming of the oceans.
Industrialization = Oxygen deprived dead zones in the oceans.
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Millions of other species destroyed environment only for food.

Forest man destroyed environment only for food.

Agrarian man destroyed environment for food, clothing and shelter.

Industrial man has destroyed environment for food, clothing, shelter PLUS thousands of consumer goods and services.

Industrial man has destroyed Exponential Extra Environment.

EXPONENTIAL EXTRA ENVIRONMENT.

(It is the urban population of industrial society that has destroyed exponential extra environment)

The collective work of human society must be limited to food, clothing and shelter.........Millions of other species only get food from earth.

Millions of other species have already been decimated by industrial activity.........Man is next on the list........Human collapse will come with lightning speed now.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:37 pm 
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The origins of industrial society from early times
-Stone tools for digging, breaking and cutting
-Capturing and managing fire
-Weaving plant fibers for clothing, rope and baskets and the development of pottery
-Domesticating wild plants including channeled irrigation with all the associated technology
-Techniques of animal trapping
-Spears, throwing sticks, bow and arrows for hunting and war
-Domesticating animals for food, work and riding with all the associated technology
-Net, line and spear fishing with all the associated technology
-Relatedly boat building with associated paddles and sails
-The building of or digging out shelters and storage bins
-The continuing expression of the leverage principle with wheels, pulleys, screws, jacks etc.
-The industrial proficiency achieved by windmills.
-The early stages of religion and the conception of an after-life
-The evolution of language allowing design and forward thinking and comprehensive conceptualizing

4000 years ago the Egyptians at a very primitive level of technology relative to us already were into empire building, constructing useless monuments, slavery and destroying the environment around them and of course were very aggressive and war-like with greed for the resources of other lands.

Oh yes and modern man probably wiped out the Neanderthals.

But we can learn. The Indians of North America by the time the Europeans arrived although more technologically advanced than their ancestors who first arrived here were probably better stewards of the land and water through trial and error. It was their ancestors who wiped out the native horses for instance.

I do agree that we won't make it with a highly corporate culture and with the level of overpopulation. 3 elements need to be respected.
1. The individual
2. The family-community
3. The planet.

We need to live in authentic communities which means we can sustain and thrive within the boundaries of our communities. That precludes corporatism and the technologies that go with it ex. planes, cars etc. With other communities we have to be good stewards of the planet which means we need to outreach beyond our communities to assure that there aren't bad actors upsetting the balance of things. Part of sustainability will have to be of course family size and once again a level of technology that is in agreement with community control and sustainability and not predatory toward other communities and their resources.


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Pre-industrial society destroyed very little environment........After the start of industrial revolution in the 18th century man invented machines that run on coal/steam, electricity and oil.......These machines led to exponential environmental destruction.

Agrarian society was the limit for man on earth........Agrarian society did not destroy oceans.......Oceans were almost 100% safe in agrarian stage.......Agrarian society did not destroy the atmosphere with millions of tonnes of industrial gases and automobile exhaust.......Agrarian society destroyed only a fraction of forests destroyed by industrial society.......Industrial society has destroyed forests for agriculture PLUS industry.......Agrarian society destroyed forests only for agriculture.

Agrarian society did not generate billions of tonnes of plastic waste, chemical waste, gaseous waste and e-waste.

Environmental collapse happens when you destroy all three ecosystems - Forests, Oceans and Atmosphere.........Only industrial society has destroyed all three.......Only industrial society could have destroyed all three.

Hundred years of industrial activity has destroyed what was created by nature in millions of years.
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Overpopulation and overconsumerism both are consequences of industrialization.

The cause of rapid increase in human population is industrialization........It took hundreds of thousands of years for human population to reach 1 billion in 1800 AD (even though most families had 5 -15 children before industrialization)........From 1 billion it jumped to over 7 billion in just 200 years after industrial revolution despite drastic reduction in children per family......This happened because of modern medicine which drastically reduced the death rate by curing diseases caused by virus and bacteria........If man had continued living in agrarian stage, human population would have been less than 2 billion today.

Environment has been destroyed by industry not by population........If population could destroy environment then it would have got destroyed millions of years ago because the combined population of millions of other species was much greater than the current human population.

World population has not increased......It has decreased......World population has been decimated.

Increase in human population has coincided with decimation of millions of other species.

Total population of this planet has decreased.......Total population of this planet has been decimated.

The burden of population has not increased.......The burden of lifestyle has increased.

Environment has not been destroyed by the burden of population........Environment has been destroyed by the burden of industrial lifestyle.
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Millions of other species destroyed environment only for food.

Forest man destroyed environment only for food.

Agrarian man destroyed environment for food, clothing and shelter.

Industrial man has destroyed environment for food, clothing, shelter PLUS thousands of consumer goods and services.

Industrial man has destroyed Exponential Extra Environment.

EXPONENTIAL EXTRA ENVIRONMENT.

(It is the urban population of industrial society that has destroyed exponential extra environment)

Millions of other species have already been decimated by industrial activity.........Man is next on the list........Human collapse will come with lightning speed now..
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There were at least two advantages of fossil fuel that came highly advertised. One is you didn't need to cut down as many trees, the original fuel for fire and two, for cities cars reduced the pollution of horse manure.

Your attempt to create a clear separation between pre-industrial and industrial appears to me to be arbitrary. I see them more as a continuum. One leads inevitably to the next.

As for over-population of humans if you don't get that you don't get anything. Adding 200,000 new carbon footprints a day doesn't mean anything? Come on! Comparing overpopulation of humans with their highly developed nature exploiting ways to say squirrels is shall we say bad humor. 8)


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Overpopulation and its demands produced industrialization, which, with the use of fossil fuels, became gross overpopulation of fire apes. Just like a couple other times in geologic history, the CO2 buildup hit 1.5*C, inducing methane turnover. We are now in process of methane runaway, possibly stoppable with a large super volcanic eruption(s) or equivalent for a couple years. Mass death of humans is not far off. The heat first kills our crops, then us. Some will be in bio- underground fortresses, and maybe last a thousand years down there. The effect produces 100% global 200,000 foot thick clouds rapidly with the abrupt heat gain, followed by no solar thermal gain for 100K years. Storms on the surface with atmospheric change to toxic, wipe out the remaining soil. There is the problem of H2S oceans, radioactive leaks and waste for the triple kill. It takes almost all life, and all on the surface, with several million years to evolve new surface life, and 30 million to reach maximum species diversity. It has been too late all this century to reduce population to long term sustainable (now, near zero), and to go near zero carbon. It was anti-any-nuclear who stopped our last chance with Clinton destroying great and ready plans for Gen 4 which could have replaced all other generations of nuclear and fossil fuels power, along with solar and other HGHG emissions free power. Now, everyone could die today and it would still go on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSnrDRU6_2g

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Monsanto is evil.....Nuclear industry is evil.....Weapon industry is evil.....Oil industry is evil.....Pharmaceutical industry is evil.....Banking industry is evil.

Really???........Who is running all these evil industries and corporations?.......Are people from Mars running them.........Are the farmers running them???........Evil corporations are being run by the urban population of industrial society.

Billions of urban people are running all the Mega Corporations of the world.........Billions of urban people are employed in Mega Corporations.........Billions of urban people are getting salaries and packages from Mega Corporations.

Urban population is evil.
Urban work is evil.
Urban jobs and professions are evil.

This planet has been destroyed by urban population.......This planet has been destroyed by urban jobs and professions.

People say 1% is controlling the world.........This 1% doesn't come from Mars..........It doesn't come from the farming community.........It comes from the urban population........The entire urban population of industrial society is criminal........The 1% that comes from this urban population is even more criminal.

You cannot save this planet without stopping urban work........You cannot save this planet without eradicating urban jobs and professions.
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There is endless discussion on how big industries and corporations are destroying everything........What is the point???.........If your house is on fire you rush to douse the fire.......You don't engage in endless discussion on the hazards and dangers of fire.

All industries and corporations are destroying the planet.......This is a fact........There is no point in taking up one industry at a time and then discussing how harmful it is........These industries and corporations need to be stopped immediately.

You can never escape from chaos, madness and destruction once you have created extra jobs, professions and activities..........Industrial society has done just that........All urban jobs, professions and activities of industrial society are extra, unnecessary, destructive and worthless.
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How does society deal with criminals?......It forcibly stops their destructive work, puts them in prison and gives them food for free......What do you do when 50% of world population is criminal and this population is also running the system???

The entire urban population of industrial society is criminal.......Urban work is criminal........Urban jobs and professions have destroyed exponential extra environment.......Production of thousands of consumer goods and services by urban population has led to destruction of forests, rivers, oceans and atmosphere.

The planet is dying and gasping for last breath......Stop urban work for production of thousands of consumer goods.......Give free food to urban population.......A fraction of world population is already producing food for entire population.
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For hundred years the urban population of industrial society has been fooling the non-urban population with figures and terminologies.......Progress, Development, Growth Rate, Economy Rate, GDP.

If Urban Society stops its supplies to Rural Society it will live forever.
If Rural Society stops its supplies to Urban Society it will die within a month.
That is the worth of Urban Jobs, Consumer Goods, Growth Rate, Economy Rate and GDP.

Urban jobs and professions have destroyed the planet.
The entire urban population of industrial society is criminal.
The crime goes unchecked because 50% of population is now urban.
The crime goes unchecked because urban population is running the system.

The food of millions of other species does not come from money.........Only the food of human species comes from money.........Industrial society has created a criminal system where food comes from money........This has led to a tragic situation where the farmer who is producing food is starving to death because he doesn't have money to buy food whereas the parasitic urban population which is not even producing food has grown obese from overeating because it has got tonnes of money to buy food.
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For millions of years there was just one main activity / occupation on earth - "Searching for Food" / "Producing Food"..........Urban population of industrial society is the anomaly that is producing consumer goods and services.

For millions of years, both adults and the offspring of millions of animal species "searched for food".

For 1 million years in hunter_gatherer society both adults and children "searched for food".

For 10,000 years in agrarian society, most of the adults and children "produced food"

In industrial society which has only existed for 100 years, urban adults are producing consumer goods and services in industries and corporations..........Their children go to schools and universities where they learn how to produce and sell consumer goods in future.
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Who wiped out the Neanderthals? Urban man no doubt. I doubt Sushi will ever get how each stage was built on the last and is natural to our evolutionary development.

Ants are urban, bees are urban. Our tendency toward excess comes out of our ability to amass surplus. Once you had competition humans built walled cities to protect themselves and their surpluses. The urban city was as natural as falling off a log once certain knowledge had been attained.

Hopefully our design capabilities will lead us to design something good. "Agriculture good, urban bad" is simply meaningless babble that ignores their intimate relation.


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As for advanced nuclear generators saving us, well they sure can. We have a huge one, an operational fusion reactor providing us with massive relatively safe and stable energy, in fact more than we could ever use. It's called the sun and it's free and has no footprint.

Sure I prefer nuclear power to fossil fuel but it's massively expensive and comes with a plethora of problems, starting with safety. I'm sticking with the sun with a little help from the moon -> think tidal power.


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Stop the obsession with Neanderthals.........The issue is environmental collapse.......Did wiping out of Neanderthals lead to destruction of forests, rivers, oceans and atmosphere.......Did it lead to decimation of millions of land and marine species.......Industrial society has caused all this destruction with industrial activity.......Bringing Neanderthals into the picture is so irrelevant.

Agrarian society was the limit for man on earth........Agrarian society did not destroy oceans.......Oceans were almost 100% safe in agrarian stage.......Agrarian society did not destroy the atmosphere with millions of tonnes of industrial gases and automobile exhaust.......Agrarian society destroyed only a fraction of forests destroyed by industrial society.......Industrial society has destroyed forests for agriculture PLUS industry.......Agrarian society destroyed forests only for agriculture.

Agrarian society did not generate billions of tonnes of plastic waste, chemical waste, gaseous waste and e-waste......Agrarian society did not poison the planet with hundreds of thousands of tonnes of the most hazardous nuclear waste.

Environmental collapse happens when you destroy all three ecosystems - Forests, Oceans and Atmosphere.........Only industrial society has destroyed all three.......Only industrial society could have destroyed all three.

Hundred years of industrial activity has destroyed what was created by nature in millions of years.
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Progress, Growth, Development.
A world without forests.
A world without green.
A world without ice and glaciers.
A world without white.
Oceans without fish.
Day sky without blueness.
Night sky without stars and darkness.
Rivers without clean water.
Atmosphere without clean air.
A world without life.
A world without hope.


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We can pray for a miracle. Live and love to our fullest. Eternity is waiting. In millions of years, Earth will have surface life again. :mrgreen:

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Do people have an iota of common sense left.....This planet is home to millions of species......One species cannot get everything when millions of other species get nothing......Millions of other species are not even getting food because their habitats have been destroyed by industry.........Industrial man wants food, clothing, shelter, thousands of consumer goods and services, salary, pension, insurance, healthcare, welfare.........And people thought this decadent and destructive lifestyle is going to last forever......Height of Insanity......The planet is dying and gasping for last breath.
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Millions of other species destroyed environment only for food.

Forest man destroyed environment only for food.

Agrarian man destroyed environment for food, clothing and shelter.

Industrial man has destroyed environment for food, clothing, shelter PLUS thousands of consumer goods and services.

Industrial man has destroyed Exponential Extra Environment.

EXPONENTIAL EXTRA ENVIRONMENT.

(It is the urban population of industrial society that has destroyed exponential extra environment)

The collective work of human society must be limited to food, clothing and shelter.........Millions of other species only get food from earth.

Millions of other species have already been decimated by industrial activity.........Man is next on the list........Human collapse will come with lightning speed now.
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Man has spent more than 99.9% of his time on earth in non-industrial societies.

Man lived in forests for hundreds of thousands of years........Man lived in villages in agrarian society for 10,000 years........Man has lived in industrial society for just about 100 years during which he has destroyed the entire planet.

If Urban Society stops its supplies to Rural Society it will live forever.
If Rural Society stops its supplies to Urban Society it will die within a month.
That is the worth of Urban Jobs, Consumer Goods, Growth Rate, Economy Rate and GDP.
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Industry has destroyed environment......The farmer is not running industry......Billions of urban people are running industry......Billions of university graduates are running industry......Urban jobs and university graduates have destroyed the planet.

Urban jobs and professions have destroyed the planet.
The entire urban population of industrial society is criminal.
The crime goes unchecked because 50% of population is now urban.
The crime goes unchecked because urban population is running the system.
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.

For millions of years there was just one main activity / occupation on earth - "Searching for Food" / "Producing Food"..........Urban population of industrial society is the anomaly that is producing consumer goods and services.

For millions of years, both adults and the offspring of millions of animal species "searched for food".

For hundreds of thousands of years in hunter_gatherer society both adults and children "searched for food".

For 10,000 years in agrarian society, most of the adults and children "produced food"

In industrial society which has only existed for 100 years, urban adults are producing consumer goods and services in industries and corporations..........Their children go to schools and universities where they learn how to produce and sell consumer goods in future.
.
.

This planet cannot be saved without stopping urban work........This planet cannot be saved without eradicating urban jobs and professions.

How does society deal with criminals?......It forcibly stops their destructive work, puts them in prison and gives them food for free......What do you do when 50% of world population is criminal and this population is also running the system???

Production of thousands of consumer goods and services by urban population has led to destruction of forests, rivers, oceans and atmosphere.

The planet is dying and gasping for last breath......Stop urban work for production of thousands of consumer goods.......Give free food to urban population.......A fraction of world population is already producing food for entire population.
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