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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:34 am 
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Chicken in a Cage

I - 'm inside.
N - o room.
S - uffering with
A - ss wounds,
N - o beak.
I - nhumane torture
T - raumatizes me.
Y - are you doing this?


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Mountain Lion -- by D.H. Lawrence


Climbing through January snow, into Lobo Canyon
Dark grow the spruce-trees, blue is the balsam, water sounds
...still unfrozen, and the trail is still evident.

Men!
Two men!
Men! The only animal in the world to fear!

They hesitate.
We hesitate.
They have a gun.
We have no gun.

Then we all advance, to meet.

Two Mexicans, strangers, emerging out of the dark and snow
...and inwardness of the Lobo valley.
What are they doing here on this vanishing trail?

What is he carrying?
Something yellow.
A deer?

Que tien, amigo?
...Leon---

He smiles foolishly, as if he were caught doing wrong
And we smile, foolishly, as if we didn't know.
He is quite gentle and dark-faced.

It is a mountain lion,
A long, long slim cat, yellow like a lioness.
Dead.

He trapped her this morning, he says, smiling foolishly.

Lift up her face,
Her round, bright face, bright as frost.
Her round, fine fashioned head, with two dead ears;
And stripes in the brilliant frost of her face, sharp, fine dark
...rays,
Dark keen, fine rays in the brilliant frost of her face,
Beautiful dead eyes.

Hermoso es!

They go out towards the open;
We go on to the gloom of Lobo.
And above the trees I found her lair,
A hole in the blood-orange brilliant rocks that stick up, a little
...cave.
And bones, and twigs, and a perilous ascent.

So, she will never leap up that way again, with the yellow flash
...of a mountain lion's long shoot!
And her bright, striped frost-face will never watch any more,
...out of the shadow of the cave in the blood-orange rock,
Above the trees of the Lobo dark valley-mouth!

Instead, I look out
And out to the dim of the desert, like a dream, never real;
To the snow of Sangre de Cristo mountains, the ice of the
...mountains of Picoris,
And near across at the opposite steep of snow, green trees
...motion-less standing in snow, like a Christmas toy.

And I think in this empty world there was room for me and a
...mountain lion.
And I think in the world beyond, how easily we might spare a
...million or two humans
And never miss them.
Yet what a gap in the world, the missing white frost-face of
...that slim yellow mountain lion!

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perched on ledges,
erudite pigeons
recite high coo

by CoffeehousePoet
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"Meat is bad for you,"
said the young vegan, lighting
up a cigarette.

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The Greater Good


We sew the eyes of monkeys
Burn the skins of rabbits,
Drill holes into the brains of cats,
We slice into mice,
Put pigs hearts into chimps,
And torture and suffocate rats.

We take babies from mothers
Slaughter mothers whilst pregnant,
Fetus' twitch on the floor.
We slice throats of the conscious
Take the lives of newborns
Then hack them up with a saw!

We decide we can hurt
Any animal we choose
For the 'greater good' of man
Because they cannot scream out
They cannot TELL ALL
We arrogantly believe that we can.

We cause pain to the silent
For the sake of our bellies
Torture and slaughter for fun
We rip out hearts,
Of the animals in labs
Then try to 'condone' what we've done!

'Custom can resign us,
to any atrocity'
George Bernard Shaw rightly said,
So, it seems we'll keep on
Torturing and slaughtering,
Till all fellow creatures are dead.

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deer!
the kids
whisper

- posted by Lauren Krauze
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grocery shopper
likes orangutans ---
boycotts margarine

- SunnysideTroll

*See what you can do to help them out too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixyckK1C03s

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 Post subject: Re: A Thread for Poems
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SunnysideTroll wrote:
grocery shopper
helps orangutans ---
puts back margarine

- CoffeehousePoet

*See what you can do to help them out too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixyckK1C03s


Orangutans can take margarine from the shelf but not put it back? :-s :mrgreen:

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countless live sharks
git their fins cut off
--- Bloody Hell!

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White Lie

"You can only get
enough calcium
by drinking milk."

Dairy requires
removal of calves
from their mothers.

Hundreds of thousands
of unwanted calves
are slaughtered yearly.

Not Necessary!
Enough calcium
can be gotten from:

Swiss chard, broccoli,
sweet potatoes, kale,
spinach (cooked),

dried apricots,
oranges, kiwis,
raspberries & more.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oTGe41A8Vo

https://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/

https://www.healthaliciousness.com/arti ... tables.php

https://www.healthaliciousness.com/arti ... fruits.php

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 Post subject: Re: A Thread for Poems
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SunnysideTroll wrote:
CALCIUM

"You can only get
enough calcium
by drinking milk." -- MYTH

Dairy requires
removal of calves
from their mothers.

Hundreds of thousands
of unwanted calves
are slaughtered yearly.

Not Necessary!
Enough calcium
can be gotten from:

Swiss chard, broccoli,
sweet potatoes, kale,
spinach (cooked),

dried apricots,
oranges, kiwis,
raspberries & more.


- by CoffeehousePoet


Check out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oTGe41A8Vo

https://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/

https://www.healthaliciousness.com/arti ... tables.php

https://www.healthaliciousness.com/arti ... fruits.php


Check the foods individually if you REALLY are interested because oranges, for example, do not contain sufficient calcium to be useful as a source unless you eat something like 15 cups a day. The fortified foods such as tofu and orange juice have to have a good source of calcium for the concentration, which generally leads to a animal based supply.

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Check the foods individually if you REALLY are interested because oranges, for example, do not contain sufficient calcium to be useful as a source unless you eat something like 15 cups a day. The fortified foods such as tofu and orange juice have to have a good source of calcium for the concentration, which generally leads to a animal based supply.[/quote]



The amount of calcium that is in a certain food is irrelevant. What matters is whether or not the human body can absorb the calcium that is present in that food. The human body can easily absorb the calcium that is present in all the foods that are mentioned in this poem. Cow's milk is for their calves.

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*NOTE: I've edited the 3 lined poem about liking orangutans and the poem that is entitled "White Lie". I then deleted the "Coffeehouse Poet" signature from them and added Sunnyside Troll's signature instead. Both characters are me anyway. I've deleted these poems from the VegTalk forum where I originally posted them.

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SunnysideTroll wrote:
Check the foods individually if you REALLY are interested because oranges, for example, do not contain sufficient calcium to be useful as a source unless you eat something like 15 cups a day. The fortified foods such as tofu and orange juice have to have a good source of calcium for the concentration, which generally leads to a animal based supply.




The amount of calcium that is in a certain food is irrelevant. What matters is whether or not the human body can absorb the calcium that is present in that food. The human body can easily absorb the calcium that is present in all the foods that are mentioned in this poem. Cow's milk is for their calves.[/quote]

Humans easily absorb calcium from milk as well.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22081694

J Am Coll Nutr. 2011 Oct;30(5 Suppl 1):471S-5S.
Milk and acid-base balance: proposed hypothesis versus scientific evidence.

Fenton TR1, Lyon AW.
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Abstract
Recently the lay press has claimed a hypothetical association among dairy product consumption, generation of dietary acid, and harm to human health. This theoretical association is based on the idea that the protein and phosphate in milk and dairy products make them acid-producing foods, which cause our bodies to become acidified, promoting diseases of modern civilization. Some authors have suggested that dairy products are not helpful and perhaps detrimental to bone health because higher osteoporotic fracture incidence is observed in countries with higher dairy product consumption. However, scientific evidence does not support any of these claims. Milk and dairy products neither produce acid upon metabolism nor cause metabolic acidosis, and systemic pH is not influenced by diet. Observations of higher dairy product intake in countries with prevalent osteoporosis do not hold when urban environments are compared, likely due to physical labor in rural locations. Milk and other dairy products continue to be a good source of dietary protein and other nutrients. Key teaching points: Measurement of an acidic pH urine does not reflect metabolic acidosis or an adverse health condition. The modern diet, and dairy product consumption, does not make the body acidic. Alkaline diets alter urine pH but do not change systemic pH. Net acid excretion is not an important influence of calcium metabolism. Milk is not acid producing. Dietary phosphate does not have a negative impact on calcium metabolism, which is contrary to the acid-ash hypothesis.

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