Having a vegan diet means trying to minimise suffering. Vegetariansim does't come as close to the minimising of suffering. Milk was meant for the calf, we are the only mature species thet drink milk apart from cats.
and dogs and most other animals if given the chance.
There is scientific proof that a bereavement occurs between the mother cow and calf when they are separated then the frightened calf is put in a crate and fed a milk substitute.
Or fed milk to get the good milk-fed veal.
In the egg laying industry the male chicks are either gassed or fed live into a mincing machine.
As opposed to the natural losses to egg laying species in the wild.
Of course there is cruelty in arable farming but that is not intentional.
So why do they not just prevent it? That's right, it cannot be prevented. So the "intentional" definition is tweaked to try to make it work.
Sure they wouldn't exist but that which never existed could never have suffered.
No life is better than life? Why is it then life seems to struggle to continue even through suffering?
I can jump over the fence and see where you are coming from but I have a different belief rightly or wrongly.
On this we can agree.
Whats your thoughts on intensive farming?
Unless we remove a whole bunch of people form the equation, it is necessary.