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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/0 ... 73652.html

The miracle of life is brought to an end in such a brutal and thoughtless manner.

Those subterranean troglodytes.

We get concerned about the child who rips the legs off a spider when we should be more concerned about what adults do to the 'lesser life'.

Eggs are awesome. Awesome eggs.

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TANG SOO!

Eggs-actly

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I usually use egg whites in a carton, and limit the amount of cholesterol I eat. My dad was 3 years younger than me when he died from arteriosclerosis. I have watched my diet since reading about nutrition while waiting for the winds to die down back when I was a 23 year old pro pilot crop sprayer. Keeping up with the subject since. I'm now 62 and feel young at heart, but my back war damage takes its toll.
Loony tunes think all eggs are sacred or some other nonsense. They forget that grains are plants' eggs as they murder them.

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This seems a silly question. Life is a miracle and a part of this miracle is death. Only life generates life and any organism, except most of the plants, should eat other organisms. We eat eggs of our own chickens. Our chickens are very happy, ranging free every day in the forest and in the field. Of course, many of them are stolen by foxes every year, but most survive and produce eggs for us. My puppies and adult dogs like eggs.

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Just eat one - it's un oeuf.

LOL. I eat eggs but only if and when I can buy them from a local, small-sized farm operation. I very rarely buy them from a grocery store, not wanting to support the large scale operations which supply the stores.

The price of eggs

http://www.eggindustry.com

http://www.veganpeace.com/animal_cruelty/eggs.htm

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Hmmm it takes 75 sq in for a chicken to be abel to stand up straight according to the link. I doubt if that a 1" X 75" space would be any better than a 1" X 68" space in allowing a chicken to stand up straight, but that is just me looking at the math.

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Absolutely right Wayne. No birds, canaries, budgies, parrots, hens etc should be caged. It violates their natural needs.

How marvelously efficient of you Wayne.
But .... Your math sucks!

This video and other similar videos have been posted on this forum before. I think at the time we were involved in a very polarized debate around "animal rights' with the word "rights" obscuring the actuality of what we are doing to animals of all kinds, including chickens. The legal and philosophical debate became academic/intellectual, and the reality of our relationship with animals got lost.

I think that advocates for the "rights" of animals are too extreme in asking that we stop eating eggs altogether and that most cannot see the grotesque nature of the industry because they are too busy opposing the extreme position. So the animals get left out of what then becomes an intellectual debate about whether animals should have "rights" or not.

Personally, I like eggs as a food source and a source of protein. Eggs are also very convenient as a quick high protein snack on the go. But I could never buy them in the grocery store since learning about the industry and how that industry operates. My sister was buying eggs from Costco until I informed her of the situation. She has since stopped and I always remember to pick her up a dozen when passing through free-range country. When eggs from local free-range farms are not available, as they sometimes are not, we just go without until they are.

Thanks for bringing this up again. It needs to be considered.

There is no error in my math and it is the specific amount the link stated necessary. So, if there is something "sucking" it is in the initial presentation and not in my math.

I suspect there may be an error in the units of measure as area should not affect the ability to stand up straight.

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Albert Einstein

I've heard of chicken and waffles, but never chicken waffles.

In order to effectively address concerns, useful information must be presented. Technically, no amount of square inches makes for sufficient living space.

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TANG SOO!

Hmmm it takes 75 sq in for a chicken to be abel to stand up straight according to the link. I doubt if that a 1" X 75" space would be any better than a 1" X 68" space in allowing a chicken to stand up straight, but that is just me looking at the math.[/quote]

How marvelously efficient of you Wayne.
But .... Your math sucks![/quote]

There is no error in my math and it is the specific amount the link stated necessary. So, if there is something "sucking" it is in the initial presentation and not in my math.

I suspect there may be an error in the units of measure as area should not affect the ability to stand up straight.[/quote]

Excuse me Wayne. There is actually nothing wrong with your math. I think i jumped to the conclusion that you were suggesting the caged chickens should have even less room than is presently allotted them.