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| Author: | kaichen [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Animal Protection Is The Most Meaningful Cause |
unfortunately u still havent shown any evidence that can directly prove that plants have feeling. what u showd is just an opinion, a conjecture, not a proved truth. however, so many evidence, form most studies and reseaches, can tell us that feeling and consciousness come from brain and nerve. in other words, it's been clearly proved that plants do not have ANY feeling. no matter there is a court or not. just think about it, can we use the same level to punish adults and children? why the punishments for children are much lighter? because they dont have high intelligence as adults. sorry i can't response very often, because i have to do my own study. |
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| Author: | Fosgate [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:33 am ] |
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| Author: | GoGreenCO [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:38 pm ] |
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| Author: | Wayne Stollings [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:51 pm ] |
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| Author: | Wayne Stollings [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:57 pm ] |
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| Author: | Fosgate [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:06 pm ] |
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| Author: | mothy [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:17 pm ] |
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| Author: | kaichen [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:08 pm ] |
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just look at the words they use: "a little like", "that's like", "This seems". i'm afraid that that kind of things can't be treated as truth or evidence. again, the link you gave is just an opinion, a conjecture, not a proved truth. pain is a kind of feeling, also related to nerve and brain function, which plants do not have. it's also a common sense. no need to find fault with the words. they are obviously innocent, in comparason of the adults who do the same thing. at least you can't use the same standard to judge adults and children. By the way, do you know what the situation in my country is? Most people there know little about animals right. Many people mistreat animals without any guilty. They say "they are just animals","they are unimportant" when they eat their pet dogs. So far there is not any animal welfare law to punish them, because many people do not accept it. And if someone introduce animal welfare law to them, they will act shemelessly and say the false concept loudly, just like "oh, animals do not have pain", "oh, plants have life, why dont you protect them". The words you picked up to support your opinion really remind me of those people. |
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| Author: | Wayne Stollings [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:41 pm ] |
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| Author: | mothy [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:02 pm ] |
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| Author: | Wayne Stollings [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:11 pm ] |
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| Author: | kaichen [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:34 pm ] |
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hehe.. what's an opinion, a conjecture, a proved truth, and what is pain and whether plants can feel pains, you can just go find a high school science book to check it, i think you really need to. i won't argue with u anymore. |
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| Author: | mothy [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:49 pm ] |
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| Author: | Wayne Stollings [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:26 pm ] |
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| Author: | Wayne Stollings [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:34 pm ] |
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