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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:46 am 
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I have had much compassion for animals since I was a child. When I was growing up, my faith and values changed several times, but my love and compassion for animals never changed. Now I finally realize that animal protection is the really meaningful cause.

Below are my answers to some questions, and a rough description of my animal protection concept.

Why must we protect animals?

Like we human beings, animals have consciousness and feeling, and can experience suffering and happiness.

No one wants suffering, and neither do animals. This is the enough reason why we must protect animals.

Why do we not advocate "protecting plants"?

Plants do not have brain or nerve, so that they do not have any consciousness at all, including any suffering or happiness.

Therefore, in terms of morality, there is no need to protect plants.

Why do we not advocate "protecting mosquitoes"?

All vertebrate animals, including human beings, have advanced nervous systems, and have strong feeling and consciousness. However, most invertebrates, such as insects, only have very simpl e nervous systems, so that most invertebrates' feeling and consciousness are very weak.

We do not say "protect mosquitoes" or "protect mites", because their feeling and consciousness are very weak.

Why we must not kill animals, although animals keep killing each other?

Animals should not be condemned for killing others, because animals have low intelligence, and cannot understand that their behaviors bring suffering to other individuals. It is just as you cannot condemn a child who is three or four years old for killing someone, because it knows nothing; in fact, many animals have the same intelligence level as a child at that age does.

However, adults' intelligence level is high enough for them to know that their behaviors may bring suffering to other individuals. Under the circumstance of knowing that, doing such behaviors is an obvious atrocity.

Why do we not obey the natural law which lets the strong ones prey upon the weak ones?

The natural law that allows the strong ones to prey upon the weak ones runs counter to the human ethics. If not, there would be no need to protect the disadvantaged groups.

The weak ones should be protected. The laws of nature are brutal, but the human ethics are compassionate. We human beings must fight against the brutality and stop the killing, not perform the killing.

Why should we be concerned about animals, rather than people?

People live really well nowadays. Most of the so-call disadvantaged groups and poor people are just have rough or less good living conditions. In addition, the human societies keep offering helps and opportunities to those disadvantaged people; with the development of societies, the helps and opportunities keep increasing.

In comparison, animals’ situations make me feel sorrier – at least those poor people will not be mistreated or killed. However, there is not even any relevant law to punish the murderers who killed animals cruelly. Now there is nothing more urgent than protecting animals.

Moreover, there is a distinction of good and evil in humans, but animals are all innocent and lovely – just as children (many animals have the same intelligence as children do); every single child is lovely.

Nowadays the rich and powerful people, have strong power, but always squander the power and capital on luxurious lives and meaningless faiths. I will be the owner of power, and use the power to make the greatest contribution to animal protection.

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Hiya, Kaichen welcome aboard....


A few observations.....

So it's acceptable for the dim-witted to kill one another but not for someone bright and in the know? A cougar that rips the throut out of a calfing Elk-cow is acceptable but a bushman in Africa that kills a Kudu to feed his starving family is at fault? :eh:


And everyone who is rich and powerful are so banal and vermin? Really?
At one income level do we start being nice and helpful?

Useless faiths?
Define what a useless faith is. And what a useful one is....

In any case, welcome.
You sound forthright and that's a good thing.

Are you vegan?


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I see "animal protection" from a different perspective. The animals needing protection the most are the large carnivores who need their prey which need land to grow into the health lunches of the large carnivores. The only way for us to give all those prey species a nice home to live in is to stop agriculture from converting all those natural areas into sterile cropland. The only way to do that is to raise your own food at home. This is actually quite possible but it really helps if you have some small herbivore species to convert the inedible plant parts into meat. If you raise the animal yourself, you can be sure it will have a happy life and painless death. If you don't have a large greenhouse or garden, you are causing countless animals to suffer and many species to go extinct (extinction to me is like killing an infinite number of unborn animals). This brings another aspect that I feel strongly about... Domesticated animals are really a unique species that fit a particular niche that saves wildlife from being on human menus. I feel therefore that we must protect these domestic species from going extinct too. I will qualify that by saying that reducing meat consumption is always good for the efficiency of the human food industry (less land needed to feed more people) but some meat production, when integrated properly, can be very beneficial to wildlife populations and maximize the efficiency of the human food industry.


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I'll wait for kaichen to respond.

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There is not any research showing that plants have feeling, to say nothing of thoughts.

Most invertebrates do not have the same level of feeling as vertibrates. For example the coelenterates; they do not have brain; how can they have the feeling

As GoGreenCO said, animals are stupid, just like children. so they are innocent no matter what they do - same as children.


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