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Author:  LetiziaPallara [ Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Very important - STOP VIVISECTION

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SIGN THE EUROPEAN CITIZEN INITIATIVE TO END ANIMAL EXPERIMENTATION



http://www.stopvivisection.eu/

Author:  Wayne Stollings [ Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:19 pm ]
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LetiziaPallara wrote:
Wayne Stollings wrote:
Why would a company want to place a product on the market they believe may result in not only no return on the investment, but also added legal liabilities for damages?



The company will have a return on the investment anyway.


No, it will not once the claims are paid.

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It's very difficult for the consumers to prove that the product on the market caused them terrible damages.


So those references to drugs with problems were unproven? It makes no sense to argue points that contradict each other as it makes both seem untrue.

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The general doctors, the first aid and all the health system will protect the drug created by their friends, the researchers, and sold by their friends, the drugs companies.


That is hard to do when there are fatalities, which is what a toxic substance genearlly causes. You might want to read the thread a little better so as to not miss such important aspects.

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It's sad to say but there is a mutual favouritism, a kind of symbiosis.


Not really, but if you want to claim it you should provide evidence to support that claim.

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And it's very difficult for the consumer to do a legal action against a drug company. It's one against the system.


That is why agencies such as the FDA track complaints in the US. Maybe your government should take some lessons if that is not the case in your country.

Author:  Cobie [ Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:42 am ]
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Ah, now I understand - it is all a conspiracy of any person even vaguely connected to medicine and medical care, or industry. Not a shred of evidence has been offered for any claim, just trust me, I and my anti-research friends now what is best for you. Well if it is OK for you to SHOUT at me to sign your petition (was there ever a tamper proof one, anyway, on the net?), then it is OK for me too, since you obviously think it works (it doesnot, and is considered very bad manners):

LEARN TO THINK CRITICALLY BEFORE OPENING MOUTH OR TOUCHING KEYBOARD.

Now I'll re-write that: You really must give us some proof that you have tried to understand both your your own views and ours. Simply saying something is so because it is on one someone's website does not count as evidence - you are making a claim, you must argue for it. It is not for me to prove you wrong but for you to show why you think you are right. Now, what is so difficult about that?

Author:  Antispecisti Pratesi [ Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:53 am ]
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Stop Vivisection is the european campaign against vivisection. We have to collect 1.000.000 signatures of european citizens to abrogate directive 2010/63/EU and to present a new proposal that does away with animal experimentation and instead makes compulsory the use - in biomedical and toxicological research – of data directly relevant for the human species. You can sign on line right now @ http://www.stopvivisection.eu/en

Please, sign and share on your FB timeline, it's very important!

Author:  Johhny Electriglide [ Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:36 am ]
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STOP HUMAN OVERPOPULATION, GREED, SLOTH, LUST, ALONG WITH EXPANDING LOSS OF GENERAL INTELLIGENCE AND KNOWLEDGE, STRENGTH AND GOOD LOOKS, IMHO.

:mrgreen: =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> \:D/ :- 8) :lol: =D> =D> #-o :eh: :shock: [-o< =D> =D> :mrgreen:

Author:  Fosgate [ Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:12 pm ]
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Can we keep lust but practice responsibly?

Author:  Wayne Stollings [ Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:36 pm ]
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Fosgate wrote:
Can we keep lust but practice responsibly?



Practice is good there ....... lots and lots of practice.

Author:  Donnie Mac Leod [ Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:52 pm ]
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The abolition of vivisection will also contribute to a society of solidarity and respect for all living beings that we are striving to create, as this kind of society is the only one able to save our planet.


If you had respect for all living things such as the child or dog suffering from cancer then you should support vivisection in order to enable those suffering now and future generations of suffering a better chance at staying alive.

Author:  Donnie Mac Leod [ Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:55 pm ]
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Antispecisti Pratesi wrote:
Stop Vivisection is the european campaign against vivisection. We have to collect 1.000.000 signatures of european citizens to abrogate directive 2010/63/EU and to present a new proposal that does away with animal experimentation and instead makes compulsory the use - in biomedical and toxicological research – of data directly relevant for the human species. You can sign on line right now @ http://www.stopvivisection.eu/en

Please, sign and share on your FB timeline, it's very important!



Only to those who don't understand the ramifications of returning to the Dark Ages of medicine.

Author:  Cobie [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:22 pm ]
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How can anyone take seriously a campaign that persists in using the out-of-date and always incorrect term "vivisection"? Do you really want to put surgeons out of work?

Author:  Donnie Mac Leod [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:29 am ]
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Cobie wrote:
How can anyone take seriously a campaign that persists in using the out-of-date and always incorrect term "vivisection"? Do you really want to put surgeons out of work?



I want surgeons & general practitioners to have better tools to combat health issues for humanity & the animals we husband . The Bio-Lab is a road to success in that march that should not be destroyed as people claiming to be compassionate turn their backs on loved ones that cures can be found for. .

Author:  LetiziaPallara [ Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Very important - STOP VIVISECTION

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vep0YbndO14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uESLz0fe9TU

Author:  Wayne Stollings [ Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:37 pm ]
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Stop vivisection .... no more spay/neuter!! #-o :-s :eh:

Animal testing lets unsafe drugs onto the market ... stop clinical trials using human animals!!!! #-o :-s :eh:

Author:  Donnie Mac Leod [ Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Very important - STOP VIVISECTION

LetiziaPallara wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vep0YbndO14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uESLz0fe9TU



I have very little respect for Jerry Rifken types as they would rather condemn mankind to dark ages of blind medicine then show enough compassion for their fellow man to help cure the diseases that destroy a human family.

Author:  SiberD [ Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:55 pm ]
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Fosgate wrote:
Can we keep lust but practice responsibly?


Yeah, that's the only one I had a problem with on the list too.

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