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Author:  CoreyJ [ Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:30 am ]
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Hello everyone,

I'm a producer/director living in Texas, and I found this board through a search engine.

I'm in no way an expert on anything green. (Well maybe just among my friends, they call me "crunchy," but I don't see it that way.) :) :)

So, I'm glad to have found this forum so that I can learn more and become crunchy granola!

Really, it wasn't until we had kids that the need to go organic and green became a REAL focus for my wife and me, and that's why we do this anyway right, for the kids.

I've rambled enough, no credentials or titles to list. I look forward to interacting with most if not each of you.

Author:  Johhny Electriglide [ Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:25 pm ]
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I don't know why organic is thought to be so green. If they don't use pesticides, herbicides and petro-chemical fertilizers, that's good for the ground water and surface water.
The biggest thing you could have done environmentally was have one or none with kids. We are so grossly overpopulated nearly everywhere in the world, especially Texas. One or none helps reduce future depletion and pollution, while 2 is for status quo at overshoot, and more is plain stupidity and ruin for future generations.
You will find it is the root of all environmental problems, and now, and in the future, economic problems. :-k :shock: :-({|=

Author:  GreenCarz [ Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:20 pm ]
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I was kinda bit concerned with organic food. Yeah, oftentimes they are associated with being green. When you buy organic food then you are environment friendly already and all but whenever I heard organic it is something that has no pesticide involve upon production, right? it is just planted and harvest the normal way without using any enhancement for it to grow fast. But in the market when I bought organic rice I was surprised that there are so many kinds of organic rice. Now, I'm wondering if they are all really organic when some nutrients are already taken away in some of them. :-k

Author:  OrganicBaby [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:45 am ]
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I'm answering for CoreyJ, because I'm one in the same.

Johhny Electriglide wrote:
I don't know why organic is thought to be so green. If they don't use pesticides, herbicides and petro-chemical fertilizers, that's good for the ground water and surface water.

Organic is thought to be green because it is? :roll:

Seriously, by just the list that you made, those elements make a serious impact on the environment. Not only are our soil and produce not poisoned, but what do you think is used to apply all of those pesticides, herbicides and petro-chemical fertilizers? certainly not a Prius or Tesla...they use fossil fuel guzzling machines to do so, and if those are being used less, what does that mean for the earth? :-k

I'll stop there, because I don't feel you are trying to really hold a conversation, I think it's more of a tactic to try to catch a newbie off-guard with some unnecessary board hazing...

I'll take this as your welcome though, because you at least did engage me with a topic.

>>>>looks forward to "talking" to you more.

Johhny Electriglide wrote:
The biggest thing you could have done environmentally was have one or none with kids. We are so grossly overpopulated nearly everywhere in the world, especially Texas. One or none helps reduce future depletion and pollution, while 2 is for status quo at overshoot, and more is plain stupidity and ruin for future generations.
You will find it is the root of all environmental problems, and now, and in the future, economic problems. :-k :shock: :-({|=


You...haven't the slightest idea of what you're talking about. :wink:

>>>>wishes there was a fishing smiley

Author:  OrganicBaby [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:55 am ]
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GreenCarz wrote:
I was kinda bit concerned with organic food. Yeah, oftentimes they are associated with being green. When you buy organic food then you are environment friendly already and all but whenever I heard organic it is something that has no pesticide involve upon production, right? it is just planted and harvest the normal way without using any enhancement for it to grow fast. But in the market when I bought organic rice I was surprised that there are so many kinds of organic rice. Now, I'm wondering if they are all really organic when some nutrients are already taken away in some of them. :-k


GreenCarz, I'm sure you know this, but for those who just stop by, you have to be careful when shopping for organic goods. Lots of companies claim to be organic, when it's just not the case. If you're in the states, you will want to look out for the USDA certified organic seal. looks like this.

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Generally, organic is the absence of synthetic chemicals such as pesticides, antibiotics, food additives, and fertilizers, genetically modified organisms, irradiation, and the use of sewage sludge.

Products that achieve organic certification from a governing body, such as the US Department of Agriculture (USDA), undergo the following requirements:
1. The farmland has been free from chemicals for a number of years (usually three or more)
2. Farmers undergo periodic site inspections
3. Farmers keep detailed production and sales records
4. Producers observe strict separation guidelines to keep organic and non-certified product separate.

Furthermore, the standards for organics can vary depending on the type of product and the geographic location where the product is manufactured and sold.

Author:  knightofalbion [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:04 am ]
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Welcome to the forum!

Author:  ericpepin [ Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Newbie here

Johhny Electriglide wrote:
I don't know why organic is thought to be so green. If they don't use pesticides, herbicides and petro-chemical fertilizers, that's good for the ground water and surface water.
The biggest thing you could have done environmentally was have one or none with kids. We are so grossly overpopulated nearly everywhere in the world, especially Texas. One or none helps reduce future depletion and pollution, while 2 is for status quo at overshoot, and more is plain stupidity and ruin for future generations.
You will find it is the root of all environmental problems, and now, and in the future, economic problems. :-k :shock: :-({|=


Yes i agree with Johhny our today's decisions going to effect ahead of generation and only in slight way but with the big effect. we have to save our earth so our upcoming generation can live there life as we are living now. Thanks.

Author:  OrganicBaby [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:52 am ]
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knightofalbion wrote:
Welcome to the forum!



I appreciate that Knight.

Author:  animal-friendly [ Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Newbie here

Really, it wasn't until we had kids that the need to go organic and green became a REAL focus for my wife and me, and that's why we do this anyway right, for the kids.

Interesting how the advent of children prompted your awareness of organics. Presumably because you love your children and want a quality life for them. I appreciate your earnestness in that regard - wanting the best for your children and I imagine, also, that you would like to educate your children to be intelligent, compassionate human beings who can get along in this society despite the corruption inherent in it.

. .... Can we raise children to be alert to the inequities, ugliness, and dirt while also keenly aware of the beauty of it all and in each human, flower, blade of grass, animal, etc.?

In the meantime, we are doing this not only for our kids but also for ourselves and each other and each other's kids. We ARE one another.






e degenerative aspects
.... the competition, the greed, the cult of individuality. If your children could be educated in a different way ... and if children in general could be educated to a different understanding of how the world works.

I've rambled enough, no credentials or titles to list. I look forward to interacting with most if not each of you.[/quote]

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