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Hi,

I'm Cheryl, age 22 from Indiana. I look forward to learning from everyone and being able to put some input in as well.


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Hi Cheryl.

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Welcome, Cheryl!


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Well, hello Cheryl. I welcome your input. It's nice to have someone around that's the same age.

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Archer wrote:
Well, hello Cheryl. I welcome your input. It's nice to have someone around that's the same age.


Young 'uns ... my kids are older than you .... ZZZZZZZ Wha? I was awake!



Welcome Cheryl!!!!! 8)

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Well, I might be a third your age but just think about how much you have learned from your kids. Try not to rule me out just yet.
Oh... and thanks for the welcome :wink:


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ladybloom wrote:
Well, I might be a third your age but just think about how much you have learned from your kids. Try not to rule me out just yet.
Oh... and thanks for the welcome :wink:


This is true. I was not ruling you out, but giving a smack to Archer for being a young "whippersnapper" .... while you are still an unknown quantity. :wink: :lol: :lol:

As for what I have learned from my children, it would fill volumes especially the part where they were replaced by alien pod people around the age of 12-13 and not returned until they were well into college. Other things like when you have to let the cat out of the refrigerator and how hard it is to sneak into the living room to play with the Christmas toys at 3 AM when you are 6 or that it is no easier trying to sneak out of the house at 3 AM when you are 16, which indicates a very long learning curve on some subjects .... :shock: :lol: :lol:

Again welcome to the forum, pull up a keyboard and let us know your opinions.

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ha... i'm pretty sure my parents still think i'm a pod person. i have much older parents and it's hard to get them to think outside the box sometimes with issues they have grown to accept as truth. Well, i guess that goes for a lot of other people besides my parents, young and old.

i'm sure many people associate environmentalism and morality with vegetarianism but i'm not sure i agree. we are higher up on the food chain and animal meat has always been a staple part of the human diet as well as many other living creatures. I do find it hard to achieve a happy medium though. I adamantly disagree with profit driven farmers who pump up their animals with hormones and feed them pesticide-infected crap, which ultimately we are absorbing but find it hard to resist the delicious pulled pork at the local bar 'n grill. At home i'm primarily vegetarian mainly b/c the organic meats at the grocery are too pricey. whoever said buying organic really doesn't cost that much more, sure weren't talking about the meat selection. Could anyone explain why this is?

For those who vouch for substituting all their protein intake for soy products, you may want to consider creating a more varied diet.
http://www.mercola.com/2004/jan/21/soy.htm


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ladybloom wrote:
ha... i'm pretty sure my parents still think i'm a pod person. i have much older parents and it's hard to get them to think outside the box sometimes with issues they have grown to accept as truth. Well, i guess that goes for a lot of other people besides my parents, young and old.

i'm sure many people associate environmentalism and morality with vegetarianism but i'm not sure i agree. we are higher up on the food chain and animal meat has always been a staple part of the human diet as well as many other living creatures. I do find it hard to achieve a happy medium though. I adamantly disagree with profit driven farmers who pump up their animals with hormones and feed them pesticide-infected crap, which ultimately we are absorbing but find it hard to resist the delicious pulled pork at the local bar 'n grill. At home i'm primarily vegetarian mainly b/c the organic meats at the grocery are too pricey. whoever said buying organic really doesn't cost that much more, sure weren't talking about the meat selection. Could anyone explain why this is?

For those who vouch for substituting all their protein intake for soy products, you may want to consider creating a more varied diet.
http://www.mercola.com/2004/jan/21/soy.htm


To me it sounds like they did a pretty good job, you seem to be able to look at issues and make up your own mind using research. I may not completely agree with everything you believe, but hopefully we can find out where we agree and differ as we go along.

As for the "organic" price differences, IMO, it is because they can charge more nothing more than any other open market issue. The selling price will always be what the market will bear even if it creates more profits for the seller, and the end seller usually makes the most where food is concerned. There are a lot of added expenses to become certified but the increased costs reflect a greater increase even in non-meat areas. My son is starting a tree farm where he will also grow seasonal herbs, and the like. He has done extensive research into the organic labeling program. To me it is more marketing than effect, but that is my opinion on the matter.

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Wayne's right about the organic foods. They're still a specialized product. Until they become more mainstream, organic foods will cost more.

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