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"Animal rights is mental illness masquerading as philosophy" ~ Unknown

"The mightiest of weapons is truth. And everyone knows you’re not permitted to enter a Government building with a weapon." -- The Covert Comic www.covertcomic.com

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"Animal rights is mental illness masquerading as philosophy" ~ Unknown

"The mightiest of weapons is truth. And everyone knows you’re not permitted to enter a Government building with a weapon." -- The Covert Comic www.covertcomic.com

http://www.missionislam.com/knowledge/aishamarriage.pdf

hmmmm...there does appear to be evidence that she was indeed 9 years old. but here's my problem, context. This link describes how normal age of marriage in 'them days' was at puberty, regardless of the number of years...

You can find examples in our old testament of our prophets engaging in equally repugnant activities (by today's standards) that were considered 'normal' at that time. This is why I have a problem with people picking out things about Islam, the prophet, etc, and using them as 'evidence' of why Islam is violent, evil , or otherwise 'wrong'. you can find the same kinds of behaviours in our own past and in our bible. ..

this link ...

http://www.iranchamber.com/history/coup53/coup53p1.php

outlines just how extreme islamic governments come to power in this modern age...it has all to do with western interference and islamic nationalistic reaction to that...this example is about the CIA and MI5(?) orchestrated coup that inserted the Shah into power in Iran. It was in reaction to this that eventually the Shah's brutal dictatorship, supported closely by the US, was overthrown and replaced by the brutal theocracy we see there today.

it comes back to oil, greed, and money...

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"Animal rights is mental illness masquerading as philosophy" ~ Unknown

"The mightiest of weapons is truth. And everyone knows you’re not permitted to enter a Government building with a weapon." -- The Covert Comic www.covertcomic.com

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"Animal rights is mental illness masquerading as philosophy" ~ Unknown

"The mightiest of weapons is truth. And everyone knows you’re not permitted to enter a Government building with a weapon." -- The Covert Comic www.covertcomic.com

you have not convinced me and I certainly won't convince you so I'll just leave it at that re: christian and muslim violence.

btw, that was a dodge you used re: hitler ...even if he did admire the muslim military attitude/history, he did use Christianity to justify his holocaust on the jews. SO, that IS in fact an example of christian violence, and one that is really hard to top...

you can disown that as being a perversion of Christianity, which I believe it was, that it did not represent Christianity, but you would then have to see that current acts of violence and repression in Islam are not necessarily representative of Islam either, but of the governments and the people who practice them...

Religion, be it Islam, Christianity, Judeaism, is only as violent as the people who practice it. there are examples in the teachings and history of all three to be used to justify all kinds of violence and persecution, as well as peace and harmony...which is why there are so many sects in each religion, and so much violent history.

I'll leave it at that.

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"Animal rights is mental illness masquerading as philosophy" ~ Unknown

"The mightiest of weapons is truth. And everyone knows you’re not permitted to enter a Government building with a weapon." -- The Covert Comic www.covertcomic.com