dog breath wrote:
have you checked out 'ifamericansknew'?
I've read it. At the end of the day, what are you doing to do about it all now
? Give some of Israel to the Palestinians? Give it all to them? Better yet, expect them to live amongst each other...now
Each side has what it has. Israel fared rather well, but Palestinians have done nothing but moan and whine ever since. You'd think they'd get over it but no, all they've done is harbor terrorists and foster hate from one generation to the next. I for one say that's fine. There's always the option of having less or nothing at all. Which, IMO, is exactly what societies like that deserve no matter how raw of a deal you got in the past.
you can lead a horse to water ...
I'm glad you read some of that website, but how much ? it details the history of the conflict which should explain why the Palestinians harbour such resentment, and should explain that Israil is taking more than it deserves. Moderates on both sides had been willing to accept Israel as it was in 1967. That would legitimise Israel in the Arab world, and would allow Palestinians to have a homeland and dignity. After all they were there for thousands of years. It is their homeland. but that was derailed by hardliners,(on both sides most likely)...its a sad situation but not one that is natural, or that had to have happened... one thing that I would hope people would get from websites such as this one...'if americans knew' is to realise that there is two full sides to this story, that there is a justification for anger and hostility from the Palestinians and that its not fair, reasonable or realistic to assume that they should just shut up and take what's coming to them. They are not inherently warlike and hatefilled, that comes from circumstances forced upon them.
are you familiar with 'collective punishment', its what's happening right now when an entire population is denied basic services, when schools and hospitals are deliberately destroyed, when food and medical supplies are prevented from passing, and its a war crime.
I often look at the Israel/Palestine thing and compare it to what happened in North America, re: european colonists and the Aboriginal peoples...we took their land, killed them off, starved them off, disenfranchised them, whatever, to take the land that they lived on for millennia and to destroy their culture. The biggest difference I see is that this is going on now, under the eyes of the world who know the difference...(would we 'modern' people do things the same as our forefathers did?) ...but no one can or will stop it...the UN would stop it (does that count for anything??) but the US won't allow it. The US has vetoed EVERY time the UN security Council voted to force Israel to back off on the Palestinions, dozens of times, since 1967 or so...http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/un.html
might does not make right.
this whole thing is so totally disproportionate its pathetic. to put it simply, an eye for an eye is one thing but this is a eye for an eyelash (as is said in one of the essays I linked last night...).
Think 'teenagers with slings' (saw that on the news) vs. tanks. Its truly a modern day david and goliath, only turned around.