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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:31 pm 
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The spending by states shows they were spending other people's money to hire contractors for state projects or programs. I know Colorado is in trouble financially from over-spending, and the USA for sure.
The 22 million Americans out of work right now corresponds to the amount of illegals employed under the table or with phony IDs. There are several more million collecting various government hand outs that were meant for citizens but given, through corruption, to illegals. The first post shows Americans standing in line for jobs vacated by leaving illegals.
Other posts show the laws broken, and fines for violation. I think a certain amount of Americans could be employed as bounty hunters to collect the fines from violators, and others to drive the buses for deep Eisenhower type deportation, and more on the borders and coasts. This would energize the economy while paying off the debt with the collected fines and taxes paid by legit Americans working again.
The USA certainly doesn't need more people when the max sustainable is between 50 and 200 million depending on standard of living. =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:48 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:22 pm 
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Johhny Electriglide wrote:
Here is a video that shows how in Arizona, people jumped at jobs vacated by illegals who got deported;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y34U07CxVm0

What is this BS posting a GnR song, completely off topic??? I can't stand Axl Rose. :razz:

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:25 am 
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This report has the statements of 14 Americans from around the country who have been screwed out of work by illegals and have witnessed more.
Budget crisis from our huge national Debt? Pay it off with the fines owed by laws, from the illegals and their employers, encouragers, aiders and abettors. The fines owed by illegals include illegal entry, phoney IDs, trespassing, littering, destruction of National Parks and Forests, and theft from border ranches.

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/acti ... ll-do.html?

With the 22 million Americans back to work, the deportation of 30 million illegals and collection of all fines owed, the US would be debt free and in a healthy economy again. It is so simple, it is stupid, yet our government refuses to enforce existing laws for the benefit of our people. Totally sickening that they would give in to special interests, and be so corrupted. :x

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:52 pm 
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A great video on the right side, here:
http://immigrationreform.com/

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HA! I see where GA. passed an AZ. type law banning undoc's and now the Farmers can't get their crops in. The legislators passed a law that would allow parolees to work as day labor harvesting crops and they won't do the work. :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:37 am 
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HA! I see where GA. passed an AZ. type law banning undoc's and now the Farmers can't get their crops in.


I don't have any sympathy for them. If anyone should know better in this whole illegal immigration "thing", it's the morons here that hire them.

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HA! I see where GA. passed an AZ. type law banning undoc's and now the Farmers can't get their crops in.


I don't have any sympathy for them. If anyone should know better in this whole illegal immigration "thing", it's the morons here that hire them.

now that the illegals are afraid to go to GA... the farmers can't get their crops in because americans won't do the work...
So what has that to do with the morons that hire them?


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now that the illegals are afraid to go to GA... the farmers can't get their crops in because americans won't do the work...
So what has that to do with the morons that hire them?


:eh:

You just said it. Those accustomed to hiring illegals (thus rendering themselves morons) can't get their crops in now because the illegals are afraid to come to GA.

I say, so what if someone that has engaged in illegal activity all of a sudden finds it difficult to walk the straight and narrow?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:52 am 
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now that the illegals are afraid to go to GA... the farmers can't get their crops in because americans won't do the work...
So what has that to do with the morons that hire them?


:eh:

You just said it. Those accustomed to hiring illegals (thus rendering themselves morons) can't get their crops in now because the illegals are afraid to come to GA.

I say, so what if someone that has engaged in illegal activity all of a sudden finds it difficult to walk the straight and narrow?


I think you both miss the point, that the legality of the hiring of workers has no bearing on the problem of not being able to hire workers to do the job. Without harvesting the crops will not be available to the rest of us too. According to what I have read about the workers here, even legal migrant workers avoid areas such as this because they are generally treated differently by the locals.

http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politic ... 58782.html

Migrant farmworkers are bypassing Georgia because of the state’s tough new immigration enforcement law, creating a severe labor shortage among fruit and vegetable growers here and potentially putting hundreds of millions of dollars in crops in jeopardy, agricultural industry leaders said this week.

Meanwhile, the state’s Republican labor and agricultural commissioners are discussing issuing a joint statement in the coming days about what they intend to do about the labor shortage, a Labor Department spokesman confirmed Thursday.

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http://www.gpb.org/news/2011/06/23/crop ... uld-top-1b

Tolar says the exodus of documented and undocumented workers have left the state’s farms with 30 percent fewer workers on average.

Portions of the new immigration law take effect July 1. It will allow police and some employers to conduct more thorough immigration checks.

Supporters of the state's new immigration law say it will save Georgia taxpayers billions of dollars in education and healthcare expenditures for illegal immigrants. And they say they are specifically targeting the mechanism that attracts and keeps illegal immigrants here: employment.

Tolar, and many of Georgia's elected officials believe the key to fixing the labor shortage is reforming the federal H2-A foreign guestworker program. Tolar, Agriculture Commissioner Gary Black and others have traveled to Washington, D.C. to press Georgia's Congressional delegation on the issue.

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No I didn't miss anything... the point is that Americans are turning the work down... because of the long hours and hot dirty work.
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Farmers, however, say they often have little luck recruiting Georgia residents to work in their fields because it is temporary, hot and physically demanding. To recruit more workers, some farmers are offering signing bonuses, Hall said.

And you're right the crops will and did rot in the feilds the cost of green produce has gone up because of it and the farms are now hurting because they couldn't get their crops to market...


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Old crow is a "maroon", as Bugs would say.
Many Americans tried to go get farm jobs and were kicked out by gangs of illegals. Where in the past before the early 1990s, Americans worked alongside green card Mexicans in the fields and orchards. After, with more illegals, they became gangs of racists keeping the jobs ONLY to "La Raza". They used threats of violence to keep American workers out, in many places, on numerous occasions. Old crow is full of s**t. :razz: :twisted: #-o :x

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Johhny Electriglide wrote:
Old crow is a "maroon", as Bugs would say.
Many Americans tried to go get farm jobs and were kicked out by gangs of illegals. Where in the past before the early 1990s, Americans worked alongside green card Mexicans in the fields and orchards. After, with more illegals, they became gangs of racists keeping the jobs ONLY to "La Raza". They used threats of violence to keep American workers out, in many places, on numerous occasions. Old crow is full of s**t. :razz: :twisted: #-o :x

ad homonyms aside Johhny you have your head up your rectum, and are 20 years behind the times… this is 2011 not 1990
Even the prison parolees (who as a rule have trouble finding jobs) with the jobs incentives and higher wages, won’t do the field work…


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Johhny Electriglide wrote:
Old crow is a "maroon", as Bugs would say.
Many Americans tried to go get farm jobs and were kicked out by gangs of illegals. Where in the past before the early 1990s, Americans worked alongside green card Mexicans in the fields and orchards. After, with more illegals, they became gangs of racists keeping the jobs ONLY to "La Raza". They used threats of violence to keep American workers out, in many places, on numerous occasions. Old crow is full of s**t. :razz: :twisted: #-o :x


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“LESLIE, Ga. (AP) — It's 3:25 p.m. in a dusty cucumber field in south Georgia. A knot of criminal offenders who spent seven hours in the sun harvesting buckets of vegetables by hand have decided they're calling it quits — exactly as crew leader Benito Mendez predicted in the morning. Georgia farmers say they've lost to a new immigration crackdown with unemployed probationers. Unless the cucumbers come off the vine soon, they will become engorged with seeds, making them unsellable. Mendez's crew of Mexican and Guatemalan workers will keep harvesting until 6 p.m., maybe longer. Not so for the men participating in a new state-run program aimed at replacing the Latino migrants Georgia farmers say they've lost to a new immigration crackdown with unemployed probationers.


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Republican Gov. Nathan Deal started the experiment after farmers publicly complained they couldn't find enough workers to harvest labor-intensive crops such as cucumbers and berries because Latino workers — including many illegal immigrants — refused to show up, even when offered one-time or weekly bonuses.

Farmers told state authorities in an unscientific survey that they had more than 11,000 unfilled agriculture jobs

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