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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:59 am 
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Everything you need to know about breast cancer

http://www.canceractive.com/cancer-acti ... ast_cancer

Also, highly recommended is the book 'Your Life In Your Hands' by Professor Jane Plant

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For a promoter of veganism, Jane Plant has a good name for it! Here is her story:
http://www.cancersupportinternational.com/jane.asp


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" Many women who develop breast cancer have significant vitamin and mineral deficiencies. US research has shown deficiencies of selenium and zinc increase risk, while 72 per cent of US women with breast cancer were shown to be vitamin C deficient and 78 per cent to be deficient in vitamin B-12. US research also showed that women with low blood levels of vitamin E were 500 times more likely to get the disease, the tocotrienol variants of vitamin E being far more preventative than the tocopherol variants.
Like vitamin E, long-chain omega-3 has been shown to keep breast tissue less dense. Women with the highest blood levels of omega-3 have the lowest levels of breast cancer. Long-chain omega 3 is principally obtained from oily fish and taking fish oils. Some can convert from plant short-chain omega 3.
Women with the lowest blood levels of vitamin D have more breast cancer, and survive less."(from the original post's link, not a hack)
I give myself and my wife not only these but other vitamins and herbs for heart and artery health, and generally cancer preventative effects (like turmeric, grape seed extract, and saw palmetto for me). Ganoderma Lucidum capsules, tea, and coffee with it mixed in. Plus I make Essiac (from optimallyorganic), or Guardian Spirit tea (from iherb.com) and we drink 3 Ozs. each morning. Also, "Age Essentials" from Vitalmax.
Not smoking or drinking and very little red meat intake, along with very low bad cholesterol intake, with moderate exercise when possible.
Plus we got our colonoscopies.
Too many friends and relatives are aging too fast, and too many are getting cancers and dying. Mainly from insufficient anti-oxidants in their diet, smoking and drinking. Exposure to agent orange and having HepC (I take the remarkable Liv52 for that, from Amazon.com), were aggravating factors.
Prevention is most important, along with early detection. A friend waited too long and is going at this time. Two are recovering using essiac and gano after surgery.
Yearly mammograms for women are only 50% effective from what I've read, and my wife has said she would refuse radical surgery if she got it. So preventative nutrition is necessary. Also, do not eat too much:
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Cancer could be drastically reduced if people were not such gluttons and if increasing income and food supply did not overfeed the average person.

This way to reduce the second most common cause of death is advocated in an authoritative publication of the Nutrition Foundation by Dr. Harold P. Rusch, University of Wisconsin professor of oncology, which is the study of tumor growth, and editor of the journal, Cancer Research.

The difficult part about applying this preventive measure is that people would have to be hungry most of the time, or as Dr. Rusch puts it:

“In the opinion of the writer, there is no doubt that a drastic reduction in the incidence of almost all forms of cancer would be achieved if the caloric intake were reduced sufficiently to decrease the weight of all people to slightly below the accepted optimum.”
Suggest Cancer Preventive

Cancer could be drastically reduced if people were not such gluttons and if increasing income and food supply did not overfeed the average person.

This way to reduce the second most common cause of death is advocated in an authoritative publication of the Nutrition Foundation by Dr. Harold P. Rusch, University of Wisconsin professor of oncology, which is the study of tumor growth, and editor of the journal, Cancer Research.

The difficult part about applying this preventive measure is that people would have to be hungry most of the time, or as Dr. Rusch puts it:

“In the opinion of the writer, there is no doubt that a drastic reduction in the incidence of almost all forms of cancer would be achieved if the caloric intake were reduced sufficiently to decrease the weight of all people to slightly below the accepted optimum.”
One thing I read long ago is that as a person begins starvation, but before organs are affected, the body will "eat" cancers and other disease cells. Hence, the low cancer among Chinese. Low protein and calcium intake keep them smaller than would be normal, too. Their CPPPD for sedentary starvation death is <800 while westerners it is closer to 1000+.

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 Post subject: Re: Breast Cancer
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haha Vitamin B-12 only found in significant amounts in animal products : "78 per cent to be deficient in vitamin B-12" I smell a hack. (note I am not against going vegan ... but my reason is not health but rather independence including no longer needing a refrigerator and a stove)


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My heart goes out to all those who suffer cancer in whatever form.


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 Post subject: Re: Breast Cancer
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For a promoter of veganism, Jane Plant has a good name for it! Here is her story:
http://www.cancersupportinternational.com/jane.asp


She definitely has the name for it. Interesting the difference between western rates and Asian (in this case, Chinese) rates of cancer.

"Chinese colleagues showed a background rate of breast cancer of 1 in 100,000 women., compared to a rate of one in ten in much of the West."

"I remembered when we had had Chinese visitors in London and offered them dairy even ice cream their reaction to it was the way I would react if I had been offered a bowl of cockroaches to eat."

"At the same time, as a scientist, I wanted to know why giving up dairy and being on a vegan diet had overcome my cancer, ....."

"The next question that came up more and more was if I give up dairy won't I get osteoporosis and where will I get my calcium from?"

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I researched the scientific literature on this subject and found that dairy especially cheese actually appeared to be bone damaging, moreover once again women in China had incredibly low rates of this condition compared to western women who had lots of dairy in their diet. In fact, the highest dairy consuming countries also have the highest levels of osteoporosis (see Food Factor 1).


My husband was asked to volunteer for a series of tests which would measure bone density. The preliminary results indicated that he had osteoporosis. (But I later found out that all they did was measure his ankles in proportion to the rest of hs body). I was much more concerned than he seemed to be and I wanted him to incorporate some dairy in his diet .... but he simply refused. He has been vegan for 35 years except for the occassional egg. I was hoping he might eat some ice-cream or cottage cheese, or something! Then he went for the more in-depth bone-scanning imaging and the results showed that he had better bone density than most people 20 years younger!

We eat TONS of kale and swiss chard ..... lots of steamed vegetables as well as adding spirulina and maca, hemp hearts and other proteins to our morning smoothies. While I was doubting the absence of the "meat and dairy board's recommendations", he trusted his intuition and didn't even gain a grey hair. The old boy is 60 this year (looks 10 years younger) and hasn't touched meat or dairy in 35 years and his bones indicate an actual age of 40. Of course almonds hold plenty of calcium ..... as do the greens. Food is medicine and always has been.

The idea of food is also culturally driven. The US consumes a lot of meat ... it is also, of course, economically driven. Hello Texas! Animals are as much as an economic commodity as .... any other commodity in this economic system we have created and evolved. The preciousness of diamonds is also culturally and economically driven ..... But while diamonds are just diamonds, animals are living, breathing entities with central nervous systems. Unfortunately, they have been ascribed to commodity in the same way that any other "thing" has been, including diamonds which are not in the posession of a central nervous system. People want both.

I am not saying that everyone should eat my husband's diet because it would not work for some ..... But the idea that we get our lion's share of protein from meat and dairy is propoganda from a very well oiled machine that needs to make a living somehow .... hence the propoganda. The denial is in the reality of the "yummy'ness" and convenience of meat. The industry relies on it. Simply put, meat tastes good. As a 5th grader put it to me recently, "Who doesn't like bacon?" Could I possibly deny it?

But with the industry treating pigs like diamonds ..... maybe that 5th grader will someday get to know the incredible pain and suffering those diamond-miners went through.


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 Post subject: Re: Breast Cancer
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:05 pm 
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Ann Vole wrote:
For a promoter of veganism, Jane Plant has a good name for it! Here is her story:
http://www.cancersupportinternational.com/jane.asp


She definitely has the name for it. Interesting the difference between western rates and Asian (in this case, Chinese) rates of cancer.

"Chinese colleagues showed a background rate of breast cancer of 1 in 100,000 women., compared to a rate of one in ten in much of the West."

"I remembered when we had had Chinese visitors in London and offered them dairy even ice cream their reaction to it was the way I would react if I had been offered a bowl of cockroaches to eat."

"At the same time, as a scientist, I wanted to know why giving up dairy and being on a vegan diet had overcome my cancer, ....."

"The next question that came up more and more was if I give up dairy won't I get osteoporosis and where will I get my calcium from?"

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I researched the scientific literature on this subject and found that dairy especially cheese actually appeared to be bone damaging, moreover once again women in China had incredibly low rates of this condition compared to western women who had lots of dairy in their diet. In fact, the highest dairy consuming countries also have the highest levels of osteoporosis (see Food Factor 1).


My husband was asked to volunteer for a series of tests which would measure bone density. The preliminary results indicated that he had osteoporosis. (But I later found out that all they did was measure his ankles in proportion to the rest of hs body). I was much more concerned than he seemed to be and I wanted him to incorporate some dairy in his diet .... but he simply refused. He has been vegan for 35 years except for the occassional egg. I was hoping he might eat some ice-cream or cottage cheese, or something! Then he went for the more in-depth bone-scanning imaging and the results showed that he had better bone density than most people 20 years younger!

We eat TONS of kale and swiss chard ..... lots of steamed vegetables as well as adding spirulina and maca, hemp hearts and other proteins to our morning smoothies. While I was doubting the absence of the "meat and dairy board's recommendations", he trusted his intuition and didn't even gain a grey hair. The old boy is 60 this year (looks 10 years younger) and hasn't touched meat or dairy in 35 years and his bones indicate an actual age of 40. Of course almonds hold plenty of calcium ..... as do the greens. Food is medicine and always has been.

The idea of food is also culturally driven. The US consumes a lot of meat ... it is also, of course, economically driven. Hello Texas! Animals are as much as an economic commodity as .... any other commodity in this economic system we have created and evolved. The preciousness of diamonds is also culturally and economically driven ..... But while diamonds are just diamonds, animals are living, breathing entities with central nervous systems. Unfortunately, they have been ascribed to commodity in the same way that any other "thing" has been, including diamonds which are not in the posession of a central nervous system. People want both.

I am not saying that everyone should eat my husband's diet because it would not work for some ..... But the idea that we get our lion's share of protein from meat and dairy is propoganda from a very well oiled machine that needs to make a living somehow .... hence the propoganda. The denial is in the reality of the "yummy'ness" and convenience of meat. The industry relies on it. Simply put, meat tastes good. As a 5th grader put it to me recently, "Who doesn't like bacon?" Could I possibly deny it?

But with the industry treating pigs like diamonds ..... maybe that 5th grader will someday get to know the incredible pain and suffering those diamond-miners went through.


Broccoli has more absorbable calcium than milk.

Dairy intake is also linked to prostate cancer as well as breast cancer. Both hormonal cancers.

The natural growth hormones in milk fuel cell growth - that is their job after all! Fine if you're a baby. But when the cells are cancer cells, then you're in trouble.

'We' are consuming more dairy than ever before. Milk which for the most part comes from cows that have been purposely cross bred to increase milk yield and often fed artificial growth hormones as well. So it is effectively 'super charged' milk.

Dairy produce is adversely linked to all manner of illnesses, as indeed is red meat, but as you say the meat and milk lobbies are very powerful and are hell bent on maintaining their profit margins.

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 Post subject: Re: Breast Cancer
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Broccoli has more absorbable calcium than milk.


What if either makes one gag?

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Dairy intake is also linked to prostate cancer as well as breast cancer. Both hormonal cancers.


So is wearing underpants. Over 99% of those who've developed such cancers wore underpants.

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The natural growth hormones in milk fuel cell growth - that is their job after all! Fine if you're a baby. But when the cells are cancer cells, then you're in trouble.


If one is drinking milk in sufficient quantities so as to overdose on hormones that do survive processing, mainly pasteurization, then they have problems above and beyond any such residues in the milk.

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'We' are consuming more dairy than ever before. Milk which for the most part comes from cows that have been purposely cross bred to increase milk yield and often fed artificial growth hormones as well. So it is effectively 'super charged' milk.


Funny, we've effectively done the same with fruits and vegetables for centuries. Yet, we don't seem to hear anyone complain until an animal species is involved. Very interesting.

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Dairy produce is adversely linked to all manner of illnesses, as indeed is red meat, but as you say the meat and milk lobbies are very powerful and are hell bent on maintaining their profit margins.



You know the difference between a "link" and a "cause", right?

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We limit our dairy intake to occasional cheese and 1% milk, with the idea that the main danger is its cholesterol and the heart disease that runs in our families. We still take 3 oz of our home made Guardian Spirit 4 herb "Essiac" tea from iherb.com, every morning first thing. Those numbers of advice are good. Here is more on breast and other cancers treatment with herbs;
http://www.healthfreedom.info/Cancer%20Essiac.htm

She was quite a lady.

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Ann Vole wrote:
haha Vitamin B-12 only found in significant amounts in animal products : "78 per cent to be deficient in vitamin B-12" I smell a hack. (note I am not against going vegan ... but my reason is not health but rather independence including no longer needing a refrigerator and a stove)

" Many women who develop breast cancer have significant vitamin and mineral deficiencies. US research has shown deficiencies of selenium and zinc increase risk, while 72 per cent of US women with breast cancer were shown to be vitamin C deficient and 78 per cent to be deficient in vitamin B-12. US research also showed that women with low blood levels of vitamin E were 500 times more likely to get the disease, the tocotrienol variants of vitamin E being far more preventative than the tocopherol variants.
Like vitamin E, long-chain omega-3 has been shown to keep breast tissue less dense. Women with the highest blood levels of omega-3 have the lowest levels of breast cancer. Long-chain omega 3 is principally obtained from oily fish and taking fish oils. Some can convert from plant short-chain omega 3.
Women with the lowest blood levels of vitamin D have more breast cancer, and survive less."(from the original post's link, not a hack)
http://www.livestrong.com/article/25392 ... tamin-b12/

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Dairy intake is also linked to prostate cancer as well as breast cancer. Both hormonal cancers.


So is wearing underpants. Over 99% of those who've developed such cancers wore underpants.

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The natural growth hormones in milk fuel cell growth - that is their job after all! Fine if you're a baby. But when the cells are cancer cells, then you're in trouble.


If one is drinking milk in sufficient quantities so as to overdose on hormones that do survive processing, mainly pasteurization, then they have problems above and beyond any such residues in the milk.

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'We' are consuming more dairy than ever before. Milk which for the most part comes from cows that have been purposely cross bred to increase milk yield and often fed artificial growth hormones as well. So it is effectively 'super charged' milk.


Funny, we've effectively done the same with fruits and vegetables for centuries. Yet, we don't seem to hear anyone complain until an animal species is involved. Very interesting.


1) Milk contains 38 different hormones and growth factors.
The main culprit is IGF-1 A Harvard university study found that men with the highest IGF-1 levels had up to 4 times the risk of prostate cancer as those with the lowest. Professor Jeff Holly, a leading expert on IGF-1 said that those in the top quarter of IGF-1 blood levels have a three to fourfold risk in breast, prostate or colorectal cancer.
A high dairy intake is also linked to increased risk of ovarian cancer.
The 2010 100% Health Survey involving 55,000 people showed that the more milk a person consumed the worse their overall health, digestion, immune and hormonal health.


2) Eating non-organic fruit and vegetables can be a hazard too of course. The case of DDT highlights that.
Eating non-organic anything exposes you to chemical residues and pesticides.

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Johhny Electriglide wrote:
We limit our dairy intake to occasional cheese and 1% milk, with the idea that the main danger is its cholesterol and the heart disease that runs in our families. We still take 3 oz of our home made Guardian Spirit 4 herb "Essiac" tea from iherb.com, every morning first thing. Those numbers of advice are good. Here is more on breast and other cancers treatment with herbs;
http://www.healthfreedom.info/Cancer%20Essiac.htm

She was quite a lady.


She was indeed!

Excellent post, Johnny.

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Johhny Electriglide wrote:
Ann Vole wrote:
haha Vitamin B-12 only found in significant amounts in animal products : "78 per cent to be deficient in vitamin B-12" I smell a hack. (note I am not against going vegan ... but my reason is not health but rather independence including no longer needing a refrigerator and a stove)

" Many women who develop breast cancer have significant vitamin and mineral deficiencies. US research has shown deficiencies of selenium and zinc increase risk, while 72 per cent of US women with breast cancer were shown to be vitamin C deficient and 78 per cent to be deficient in vitamin B-12. US research also showed that women with low blood levels of vitamin E were 500 times more likely to get the disease, the tocotrienol variants of vitamin E being far more preventative than the tocopherol variants.
Like vitamin E, long-chain omega-3 has been shown to keep breast tissue less dense. Women with the highest blood levels of omega-3 have the lowest levels of breast cancer. Long-chain omega 3 is principally obtained from oily fish and taking fish oils. Some can convert from plant short-chain omega 3.
Women with the lowest blood levels of vitamin D have more breast cancer, and survive less."(from the original post's link, not a hack)
http://www.livestrong.com/article/25392 ... tamin-b12/


Don't forget iodine...

http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller20.html

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The results were very clear, the higher your level (of vitamin D), the lower your risk (of breast cancer)
- Dr Cedric Garland

To have a blood level that would cut your risk by 50 PER CENT, the researchers said that you would have to take 50mcg (2,000 i.u.) of vitamin D daily and also spend 10-15 minutes in the sun.

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1) Milk contains 38 different hormones and growth factors.


I can drink water containing sulfuric acid, cyanide, and cocaine. In the appropriate concentrations, the effects would be negligible. Concentration. That's a key word. You understand it's implications, right?

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The main culprit is IGF-1 A Harvard university study found that men with the highest IGF-1 levels had up to 4 times the risk of prostate cancer as those with the lowest. Professor Jeff Holly, a leading expert on IGF-1 said that those in the top quarter of IGF-1 blood levels have a three to fourfold risk in breast, prostate or colorectal cancer.


Citation please.

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A high dairy intake is also linked to increased risk of ovarian cancer.
The 2010 100% Health Survey involving 55,000 people showed that the more milk a person consumed the worse their overall health, digestion, immune and hormonal health.


As I stated before, a "high" intake of anything would be unhealthy by definition. One can die by drinking sufficient amounts of perfectly pure, distilled water. Those crying about "bad" stuff don't seem to understand that it's not the stuff that gets you, it's the amount of the stuff.

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2) Eating non-organic fruit and vegetables can be a hazard too of course. The case of DDT highlights that.


No, the case of DDT highlights that consuming fruits and vegetables exposed to DDT can be a hazard. It does not in any way indicate that consuming non-organic fruits and vegetables is necessarily hazardous. Learn the difference.

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You're exposing yourself to radiation right now. Concerned much?

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