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Okay, fair enough. Admittedly a bit cryptic. I mean that love is not of the mind while belief is. We can have ideas or beliefs about love, but those are of the brain/mind, while love is as mysterious as the universe. No idea or belief can pin it. It is not OF the mind.
Actually, it very much is of the mind, along with any other emotion. Improving upon your statement, there is no love without the mind.
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The conventional definition of love probably involves emotion, but I am speaking here of the unfathomable kind of which the universe is made and it cannot be grasped by the mind ..... it's just too damn mysterious!
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I guess we're even then. Faith is faith, no need for science. That is, unless you're telling me not to believe at all, in which case I would respond by telling you not to be scientific.
Hmmm .... not sure about this one. Not sure what you are saying here.
I'm saying that neither is needed in order for the other to exist but more importantly, that they do not necessarily oppose each other.
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Well, ya. Faith is essentially belief. One could believe in many things and most belief is based on some kind of prior knowledge. So, faith in what? Where is there need for faith when life is all around us?
People make judgements, decisions, and draw conclusions based on anecdotal evidence provided by this very life and world surrounding them. As a scientist and believer, I have the ability to distinguish between that which is simply unexplainable and that which appears to be something else entirely. It's not something I would expect a non-believer to understand, for they have yet to experience that about which I am talking.
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If you experience something directly, where is the need for belief? You have3 a direct experience of the thing you are speaking. If you have no experience of it, then in would come belief or faith.
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I don't see any honesty here. To call it my belief? I have none. I've already said so. It's an opinion for sure, but not a belief!
http://thesaurus.com/browse/opinion?s=tMain Entry: opinion [uh-pin-yuhn] Show IPA/əˈpɪnyən/ Show Spelled
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: belief Here's another definition which more accurately points to the word "opinion" as I am using it here.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion.
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Responsibilty for all of it. The state of the world. We can't take a back seat
to any of it when we take full responsibility for all of it ... each and every one of us. It's so easy to depend on, rely on, some outside authority, and then leave it to that authority. We may say, for instance, that "society" is responsible for the ills that plague us all. But the fact is that WE ARE SOCIETY. There is a huge sense of responsibility when one has done away with belief.
Or not, if one *believes* that society is responsible. I *believe* what you're saying here is correct.
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There's nobody ... no over-seer, no daddy, and ultimately no authority who decides what is good or bad. It's done by us. We're it. The way we treat our neighbors, our children, our wives and husbands. There is nobody to depend or defend us. We ARE it. Once seen, it it is both a major responsibility as well as a major relief.
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So, what's bad can actually be good (and vice versa) if we simply decide it is so? Now that I don't buy.
That is well and good. I don't buy it either nor did I say it.
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