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Wayne Stollings wrote:
If starvation ceased all over the world without the intervention of humans, yes, I would think that would be evidence of existence of such an entity.
I’m glad to know there is at least some threshold, but I’m still out on exactly why it would be something like this as opposed to unexplained occurrences that have happened already. Further, how would you prove existence if it
did happen?
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Not talking about religion.
Kind of hard to do when discussing supernatural entities and the possible existence thereof.
Not really. Perhaps that’s part of your problem. You’re equating religion with faith.
Not equating them but pointing out the correlations between the two where supernatural entities are involved.
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You’re drawing a conclusion based on no evidence.
No, I am drawing a conclusion based on the LACK of evidence which is significantly different.
If you lack evidence, then you have no evidence. Same thing.
No, that is where you fail. The lack of evidence over time is then evidence itself that something might not exist. It is never conclusive as it is a negative proof, but it is evidence non-the-less.
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The lack of evidence infers a lack of existence and that is a logical conclusion.
That is illogical. Nothing doesn't infer anything at all.
Yes it does. You cannot prove the lack of existence of the tooth fairy, however if you gather enough evidence for failed attempts to prove said existence the preponderance of the evidence does begin to infer the lack of existence. The longer this evidence accumulated the more the lack of existence is inferred. Of course, it is not going to be conclusive forobvious reasons, but it is the only way to prove a negative to any degree.
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The extended time without said evidence of existence creates a greater logical probablility
of the lack of existence. Being a negative it can never be completely determined, but the amount of evidence without positive indications is evidence in and of itself.
My point is supported by the fact that we’ve made discoveries of things for which we had no evidence of existence, some for hundreds of years.
Yes, and that lack of evidence was evidence of the lack of existence, until the existence was proved.
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That alone is evidence that things do indeed exist, even affect us, despite how long we remain ignorant of it.
Yes, and that is why there is always the chance of new evidence changing the way we view anything, but CURRENTLY we only have the evidence we have.
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I do not have to find the evidence just have to see it.
If you’re not looking for it, you probably won’t find it. Mosquitoes may seek you out, turtles likely don’t care one way or the other, and some things are just going to all out make a point of avoiding you. Out of sight, out of mind, right?
I may not be looking, but someone will be or the supernatural entity is not very popular.
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Well, for a diety a century would be a good minimum period.
Why is that?
It is sufficient time for improvements in technology that would allow improved search capacity.
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You don’t take anyone at their word…ever?
On minor issues, but evidence of a supernatural entity would require more than just the word of someone I did not know.
What of someone you did and trusted implicity?
If they had no evidcence to support it, I would still question it.
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[quoteLike I said, if you don’t know to be looking, you won’t look. But humor me. How many?
I looked and found none.
That must mean none exist, right? At least you saw fit to look.[/quote]
It means there is no evidence I can find to support the existence and thus there is a high probability there is none.
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No doubt there is anyway. It’s interesting, though, how that belief seems to stick throughout their lives once the monsters, the tooth fairy, and Santa Claus fade away.
For some perhaps, but not all.
That’s okay. I won’t tell anyone you leave tic-tacs under your pillow to fool the tooth fairy.
I don't since I set the trap for the tooth fairy many years ago and discovered there was someone else involved.
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Seriously, is there some requirement that all do so?
No, but some are naturally gullible and cannot be trusted to make a logical conclusion based only on facts.