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I raise one to those who walk our walls: past and present.....

I 2nd that Iowanic.

Thank you to my son, my nephews, my past uncles, my father, grandfather, and all the other men and women who serve and have served and a special thanks to those soldiers and their families who lost their lives for us.
There is no greater selfless sacrifice.

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It's a strange world of language in which skating on thin ice can get you into hot water.
Franklin P. Jones

I agree !!!!!!

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With friends like Guido, you will not have enemies for long.

“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none”
Arthur Schopenhauer

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

In the past when I served, pay was less than civilian, and people did it out of patriotism and duty. Now it is the government big pay feed bucket;
http://www.military.com/veterans-report ... ESRC=vr.nl

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”
― Chief Seattle

I'll drink to that.

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TANG SOO!

Such a story. Epic.
Lives lost to a story.
Tragic indeed.
They lost their precious and beautiful lives for a chapter in some history text.
Tragic indeed.

To be selfless is an entirely different story.

Sons, nephews, uncles , fathers, and nowadays ... women .... (neices, aunts, mothers, grandmothers ...) only lost their lives because they lost their beautiful lives and nothing more or less.

Adds fodder to parades.

Senseless.

Selfless? Only if one sucuumbs to folly.

I know I will hear it now ..... the drums and the flag waving. There will be logic...

But when we send our kids to church on Sundays and then to war on Mondays ... and we insist that we LOVE our children? Did we have them as fodder? Are we a soldier making farm? And then we thank them for their "selfless" service? Really? Is that why we had them?

You mean that you were then willing to sacrifice your very, very precious life .... a life that no other than you could uniquely live ....?

At that time, you were ready to sacrifice your unique life to the "job" of fighting for an ideology? Freedom, was it? Ready to let your life go, sacrifice your life for the idea of "patriotism" and this thing called "Duty"?

Patriotism and duty are ideas which society has infringed upon you.
This will be hard on you. You will fight this. You will be mad at me.

But if you do not hold your own life as sacred (and it is), how will you ever know those you were bombing as sacred? The lives you ended were as worth living as your own.

If you value your own life .... Let's hope you do .... then you might also value the lives of others, becauuse they ARE you.

You mean that you were then willing to sacrifice your very, very precious life .... a life that no other than you could uniquely live ....?

At that time, you were ready to sacrifice your unique life to the "job" of fighting for an ideology? Freedom, was it? Ready to let your life go, sacrifice your life for the idea of "patriotism" and this thing called "Duty"?

Patriotism and duty are ideas which society has infringed upon you.
This will be hard on you. You will fight this. You will be mad at me.

But if you do not hold your own life as sacred (and it is), how will you ever know those you were bombing as sacred? The lives you ended were as worth living as your own.

If you value your own life .... Let's hope you do .... then you might also value the lives of others, becauuse they ARE you.

Oops ... posted twice, but maybe worth it?

It is? Sounds like folly to me.

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TANG SOO!

Biggest threat to world peace is the USA.

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With friends like Guido, you will not have enemies for long.

“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none”
Arthur Schopenhauer

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

Troll? I say Americans support of terrorists troll like. When it hits home you want the world to jump to your tune

What a bunch of ignorant horse crap. You obviously never read about what I did or you would be apologizing.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v699/ ... toffer.jpg
Then there is the troll tommee, who has his facts mixed up. The USA is anti-terrorism, while Iran and others are known supporters of terrorism.

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"With every decision, think seven generations ahead of the consequences of your actions" Ute rule of life.
“We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children”
― Chief Seattle

The USA are IRA supporters, terrorists who killed many men, women and children. Truth hurts.