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America was stupid enough to elect the incumbent for another term. America has reached a new level of dumb. Our economy will fail, the Muslims will invade, and we will lose all of our freedoms and Obama will find a way to be re elected for a third term. That's if he doesn't get us involved in a third world war or something equally insane, make us part of the NWO.

I believe the stupidity was in the Republicans pushing such a fringe position that the only real choice was the one the country made. The rest of the conspiracy theories not withstanding.

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Fringe position? No one mentioned overpopulation and reducing emissions 90%. The only thing close was self deportation pushed by Romney without addressing gross over-immigration. The NRA magazine's possible gun rights taking scenario by 'bama is frightening and possible. The right wing SCOTUS judges he could appoint for life is another grim scenario on our rights. I have a sense of dread that I will be criminalized and shot by the people I fought for, and that the sacrifices for freedom so many made were in vain.

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Ammo sales shot sky high when Obama was elected all because of the fear that he was going to do something ... anything to control guns and ammo. Four years later the threats that he might do something are still selling more guns and ammo than anything else and he has still done nothing other than say he was not going to push for more controls. Anything is possible, but what one needs to watch is what is probable rather than possible.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... r-nra-say/

The fringe position is the tea-party base where no abortions would be allowed for any reason, gays would become a third class citizen, and the rich would get tax breaks funded by throwing the poor to the wolves.

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OK... Let's just look at a couple of Obama highly dismal actions:
We have a really crappy economy.
Taxes have gone up.
This beast called Obamacare is coming alive.
People are already laying off dozens of employees.
He made it possible to infinitely detain someone.

Which was in freefall when he took office and the Republican goal was to keep him from having more than one term at any cost.



Which taxes would that be?

Highest Income Tax Tier
The requisite income level to be in the subject to a year's highest income tax.

2008 = $365,300 2012 = $379,300


Top Rate on Regular Income
The maximum annual tax rate on regular income for the given year.

2008 = 38.3% 2012 = 37.9%



And? People being able to get affordable insurance is not a bad thing especially when we have to pay for their visits to the ER as part of our payments.



Dozens? Why is that?



Unlike the Congress which passed said legislation?

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With friends like Guido, you will not have enemies for long.

“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none”
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"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

Obamacare will create more jobs~!


Too bad they'll be part time!

http://johnib.wordpress.com/2012/11/07/obamacares-price-full-time-jobs-become-part-time/

Ya want fries with that?

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This has happend before in American history. Roosevelt was elected and re-elected with an economy worse than this. Spending at today's levels adjusted of course. He created huge spending programs for the day, and flirted with "the Second Bill of Rights." Google that for some interesting reading.

Has this country changed? Yes, and its the electorate that has allowed it to change. We get the government we deserve. It seems we live in a post constitutional republic at the beginning of the european socialist model. This government has been on the auto-growth setting under the stewardship of both parties for decades. The only question is how far are some willing to push it and how fast? We still live in the best country devised by man. We survived Roosevelt. We will survive Obama. You have to have faith that things will unfold as they should.

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Reality ... what a concept

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp ... 4#49736294

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Adulte language NSFW

http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/now-wi ... unk-w.html

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Then again, we have the fringe position of no abortion for anyone for any reason, when the most likely change scenario is having it prohibited except in cases of rape, incest, or threat to the mother's life. God forbid we take away someone's right to an elective medical procedure. Males should have some comparable right without having to pay for it out of pocket. How much more acceptable, to everyone, do you think vasectomies would be? An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Of course we can't leave out gays becoming "third class" citizens because they're not allowed to marry. A bit of an extreme take on the matter considering gays could still function and do what they will as if they were married, regardless. If we want to bitch about benefits and what-not, then single folks are just as "third class" as gays.

Please resume distracting your mind with BS while circling the drain. We're doomed no matter who's in the white house.

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TANG SOO!

Except that the push is to prevent abortions no mater WHO pays for them. In fact, there are several restrictions placed on what funds can be used in such a case. Some of the cases are far from elective surgery too, which is why I called it a fringe position. Cases of rape, incest, and where the woman's life is in danger is not comparable to your example.



You mean they could function as a single person without being single? That would be the definition of discrimination. If you were prevented from making health decisions for your wife or even prohibited from visiting her in the hospital because you were not legally tied to her, would not be the same as a single person not having the same rights for some stranger they did not know.




Discussions with those with opposing views is not that much of a distraction.

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If you prevent them, there's nothing for which to pay.



If it's not elective, no one should have a problem with it. It doesn't matter what the push is. There will be compromise if there is to be change.



Rape and incest would certainly be elective if the mother's health wasn't endangered.



You mean they could function as a single person without being single?[/quote]

I mean they do function as single folks if their marriage isn't recognized.



Not unless we're discriminating against single folks simultaneously. I don't hear anyone bitching about that.



No, it wouldn't, but then marriage isn't required for health care power of attorney, is it?



Discussions with those with opposing views is not that much of a distraction. [/quote]

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TANG SOO!

Then why present the payment red herring?



That is the problem with the fringe Republican stance which seems to be the drive for the whole party.



Only in there is a choice by the woman, just as there is a choice by any patient not to have a treatment. All other choices were removed from the equation.

I suppose you would then classify reconstructive surgery after an acid attack as "elective" since it is plastic surgery and the person could just live with the injury.



I mean they do function as single folks if their marriage isn't recognized.[/quote]

Which thus takes their rights away from them. Just as there were similar views on marriage between the different races in the past. If it is acceptable to discriminate against one group we should expand that back to all of the other groups. You could be single again.



You are mixing examples. If you prevent ALL single people from choosing their mate it would be discrimination against single people too. In this twist you wold be claiming there was no discrimiantion because some single people did not wish to marry.



Health care power of attorney still does not grant visitation rights though. It is also subject to being overridden by direct family members, which is not as easily done with a spouse.

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With friends like Guido, you will not have enemies for long.

“Intellect is invisible to the man who has none”
Arthur Schopenhauer

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein