I have noriced that Grace is the only one who does try to defend her position...the others have gone because they are fascists grace, not cowards. They do not want to debate. To your credit, I think you have been very brave and stuck with it.
I also think you have raise points which may improve the fur trade from a welfare point of view. Because the unscrupulous can undermine the legitimate (in any trade really, but more accute when animal welfare is concerned). So stay with it Grace.
We arent against you personally and the debate may lead to balance, understanding and some positive outcome.
We obviously are debating with you because we care about animals and the environment and care that you arent sucked into a useless ideological stance.
You can put your caring into avenues where there animals are really endangered and we can all work together both practically and in terms of pressure on things like habitat destruction for example; rather than you get drawn into dangerous polotik which has nothing to do with real animla welfare. Or who knows, you may get us all convinced by your arguments and we end up AR!
One thing for sure....at least this has shown us that not everyone with your views is a fascist, and you probably are thinking, well, these folks arent the people delighting in animal abusing after all. Understanding is the key...and we can only come to that through talking. Your comrades dont want to because they are stuck in their views.
best regards Cree1