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I would like to think He created us through evolution to be smarter, stronger, better looking, with the genetic crowd intolerance, to be able to live happy, joyous and free, sustainably and understanding His Laws and giving Him Love as He gives it to us. Evolution itself has been altered by human over-compassion and over-tolerance, and the developed crowd tolerance. This stuff goes back to some false religious beliefs, and failure to replenish the Earth or know the limits God set. Humans were their own predator, and perhaps He wants Those that can live sustainably and understand His Laws to kill off the dumb over-breeders, the greedy(and polluters), and the crowd tolerant. If we don't, then humans will go extinct and God will have not had His wishes for us fulfilled. 500 nukes to the world's slums, including our own, would be a good start. (50% of nuclear winter threshold)
Allowing extinction or causing it by over-breeding and not being green, would be the biggest sin possible.

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Those who believe the Earth is flat do not want anything that disagrees with their views to be taught, as is the case with those who believe the Earth rides on the back of a giant turtle. Evolution is critical in the understanding of biology and with out it we only have a partially educated population. Of course the less a population is educated the more exposure there is to other beliefs and the natural increase in questioning of religions in general.

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I don't mind so much that they are exposed to it. I just don't like that they teach it as fact. Cause it's not.

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Well, actually, half are below 100 IQ. That's more or less the definition of IQ.

I don't know about the rabbits part. Sounds like another bible story to me.

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Which part is not fact? The fact is creatures evolve that is already proved. The particular mechanisms are not completely known nor are the exact stages of macro-evolution. I suspect you have been given some false information on the subject.

The Newtonian Theory of Gravity was not fact either but it was taught in schools until the better theory was developed. The same thing can happen for all of the math and science as we learn more we can understand things we were not able to understand at earlier times. If we do not teach what we know there cannot be advancement, which seems to be the opposition from the Church to science over the centuries, because we have to build on the prior knowledge in order to go farther.

If you were to study the subject yourself and not take the word of those who misrepresent the actual scientific position you might draw a different conclusion. So much false propaganda has been spread on this subject it would be laughable if it were not so absolutely sad.

For example, the first statement you usually hear is that man evolved from apes, which is so blatantly false yet so ingrained in the opposition it is almost taken as a fact. It is the testament of the ignorance of that opposition and on a par with the same type of actions exhibited by the Animal Rights crowd when they rant about medical research and how humans are not supposed to eat meat or animal products.

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Actually, that is the definition of 'average' because IQ measurement does not deal with any particular level, but the comparison of the data for the population does.

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http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/Top10MythsEvol.HTM

http://home.entouch.net/dmd/wrong.htm

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/quotes/

http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/whats-old.html

http://www.scienceandreason.net/evol.htm

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There is part of this that I do need to question after thinking on it. You say they teach the Theory as fact, which implies to me an incorrect teaching method and not a problem with the Theory itself. No scientific theory should ever be presented as a fact unless and until we know everything there is to know about everything. This is what is sometimes called the 'scientific purist' view and I have had some interesting discussions with Ock over the presentation of the Theory of Evolution resulting from that view. The information is factual, the explanations for why and how these changes occur is tested and supported by the many attempts by science to disprove them and failing to do so. This is a case where the Theory is as close to fact as we can get, but just like the old Theory of Gravity there is the possibility of a change being made due to later a discovery. The change will not affect the the prior facts but just the understanding of how the changes occurred and possibly why. Just as gravity did not disappear because the original Theory was found to be slightly flawed neither will the fact that evolution (the change over time by organisms) is a fact either. The only thing that is now in question by science is the exact mechanisms behind those changes. If it is the teaching of the mechanisms being factual that you oppose then you would have a good case in my opinion, but if you believe the actual changes are not factual then you would not have a case at all scientifically speaking.

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It was taught to me in school as a fact, and I was taught that we evolved from apes.

In accordance with the theories you're familiar with, Wayne, what did we evolve from?

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Not Adam and Eve that's for sure

I suspect you did not listen very well to the instructor, but that is only a suspicion.

As for our evolutionary path, we share a common ancestor with not only with the ape, monkey, and other primates, but every living creature on the planet with DNA.

Some links to the human and primate evolution progress.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001819.html

http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/society/A0824496.html

http://www.emory.edu/LIVING_LINKS/Taxonomy.html

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In a way, possibly. The first evolved human could have been called either Adam or Eve and their mate would be the other. That is how evolution stands without necessarily attacking the religious beliefs.

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Archer...do you remember the textbook that was used in your science
class if the scientific theory was being taught as "fact"...would like
to research it.

I did a google on the Texas standards for textbooks and a critique on
how the science of evolution is presented...interesting commentary
here.

agree there should be a universal standard across the country on how
the scientific theory on evolution should be taught just like Einstein's
theories on the General Theory of Relativity and Special Theory of Relativity are taught in Physics class.


http://www.arn.org/docs/mills/gm_origin ... lution.htm

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So you believe we evolved from Adam and Eve? No you don't so look again at the question instead of playing with words Mr Strolling. Life began, evolved from?