Wayne Stollings wrote:
I am keeping an open mind until we see some hard evidence.
About the latest arrests. The police arrested a couple of young Muslims last month, they shot one of them and they were innocent. The police also shot a Brazilian man nine times in the head, he was innocent
Which has no bearing on the cases in discussion as the process of arrest or apprehension is limited to split second decisions and not the presentation of evidence.
It has everything to do with this case. We are faced with events that were triggered by arrests in Pakistan, arrests that had not connection to this case at all. While investigating the Pakistan police uncovered some intelligence that suggested an attack was imminent.
Earth to X-Black!!! Unless these two cases, which I have highlighted, are directly connected to the case being discussed they have no bearing. So, if you are saying these two sets of shootings were a cause there is a connection. If they are not a cause they are not connected.
The UK security forces have had these people under investigation for months just like all the others that they have arrested over the years. When the security forces are making mistakes arresting and shooting innocent people then it has everything to do with this!
I think you had better give some references to your claims as this is beginning to sound like a 'jug' explanation to me. Give the particulars of the cases and we will see how well your interpretation matches reality.
These people will be held without access to a lawyer or anyone except the security forces for upto 3 months.
Which is connected to the original statement in what way?
Because they have said that others are at large they have the right to interrogate these people in ways that are otherwise illegal and very much a breach of their human rights! Sleep deprivation is one technique that is now open to them.
Again, this appears to be some tangent you are trying to include based on your own agenda.
In England we are proud of our mix race communities and we should protect ALL our citizens and not allow Muslims to be a scape goat just because of a minority. We do not want to fall into the paranoid trip that America has because it is dangerous.
Now, I know this is a tangent as the post stated "I am keeping an open mind until we see some hard evidence."
, which would be in line with this thought and to which you seem to disagree.