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Wayne Stollings wrote:
X-Black wrote:
Wayne Stollings wrote:
I think you had better give some references to your claims as this is beginning to sound like a 'jug' explanation to me. Give the particulars of the cases and we will see how well your interpretation matches reality.
A decision was made to move suddenly following months of surveillance.http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/sto ... 40,00.html Yes, the decision was made to act rather suddenly but then the timeline for the actual attack was coming to an end as well. Maybe they could have waited a while to see if this was a test run or an actual attack and their information was not completely accurate. That would have really been a mistake, IMO.
So if they waited a week or so to act, would there have been 10 or so fewer airliners in the world?
The plans could have been carried out in the next two days, a White House spokesman said today. He added that Tony Blair and George Bush had discussed the plot on Sunday and Wednesday.Quote:
The UK security forces have had these people under investigation for months just like all the others that they have arrested over the years. When the security forces are making mistakes arresting and shooting innocent people then it has everything to do with this!
I think you had better give some references to your claims as this is beginning to sound like a 'jug' explanation to me. Give the particulars of the cases and we will see how well your interpretation matches reality.
So as you can see the links were provided to show the police had these people under close servailence and have for months, the security forces knew all about the plot and the only thing that change was a phone call from Pakistan after the arrest - not connected - of a British Muslim who's brothers are part of this investigation.
It was this call from Pakistan that urged the attack to go ahead after the arrests of one of the main players in Pakistan, obviously hoping they could go ahead with the attack before it was uncovered and not knowing the police in the UK knew all about it.
So that urging to undertake the attack before it was uncovered would not have caused the attack plan to be changed before the police knew of the time table? I would think that would be sufficient reason to act, but you have some unusual ideas on what the police should do to protect the public.
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If it is a link to the innocent Muslim man who was shot you want then see below. I am sure we all have read the news about the Brazilian man who was shot in the tube, 9 times in the head while he was held down by the way.
http://feeds.thelondonnews.net/?rid=1e0 ... 33ee08&f=1The mention was 7 times and he was the one running from the police if memory serves. If there is such information from an inquiry, it would be good to have referenced the report of that inquiry to support your claims. We still are only hearing your incorrect versions of events.
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The reference to the electronic timing device came out of the USA homeland security spokes person and a couple of news papers quoted him.
Including the BBC, correct? Did the British not give interviews to the BBC?
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On British TV was an hour news update with a home office spokesperson and security adviser interviewed. They main concern in this development was the fact they didn't plan to use electronic devices to detonate the bombs. Instead they planned to smuggle chemicals inboard in plastic pop bottles and mix the cocktail inboard. We shall see in the coming weeks what was planned. At the moment the news is not very interested in the latest events and public opinion in the UK is of distrust of the situation.
That matches my distrust of the information you relate without support given the number of significant errors in your statements.
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The police didn't need to go in at this point and I would have thought it better to tighten the ring around them and wait for them to move.
You can make that determination with no more information than you have compared to the information they had? We call that "Monday morning quarterbacking" where you make retroactive decisions based on later information.
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As for the "jug" explanation well you haven't the full facts on that either.
So you claim, but do not support said claim with anything of more substance than repetition, which does not make it any more truthful.