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Croc Hunter Irwin killed by stingray

September 4, 2006 - 2:24PM


World famous wildlife warrior Steve Irwin has died in a freak accident on
the Great Barrier Reef, killed by a stingray barb which pierced his chest.

Friends believe the Crocodile Hunter, 44, may have died instantly when
struck by the stingray while filming a sequence for his eight-year-old
daughter Bindi's new TV series.


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http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/ ... 51588.html

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So I've read a bunch of the accounts of what happened, and I am still perplexed. I've had the privilege of swimming with many stingrays, manta rays and eagle rays and I've never had a problem. In fact, most people know that unless you actually step on one of them, the chances of getting stung are almost nil. Further, for the stingray to have enough force behind it to puncture his skin, rib cage and pierce his heart, it would have had to have a hell of a lot of leverage and power behind it. I just have a hard time understanding how this happens under normal conditions.

The account that is being circulated is that he was "just swimming above the stingray" which seems incredibly dubious to me. He was a hell of an advocate for the conservation of snakes, reptiles and other critters. It's a shame that he's dead.

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One report I read indicated that the stinger penetrated below the ribcage and angled upward to the heart, which is possible but also unusual.

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Which reminds me, Mr. Venom take notice of this and be VERY careful with your reptile friends :wink:

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josh knauer wrote:
So I've read a bunch of the accounts of what happened, and I am still perplexed. I've had the privilege of swimming with many stingrays, manta rays and eagle rays and I've never had a problem. In fact, most people know that unless you actually step on one of them, the chances of getting stung are almost nil. Further, for the stingray to have enough force behind it to puncture his skin, rib cage and pierce his heart, it would have had to have a hell of a lot of leverage and power behind it. I just have a hard time understanding how this happens under normal conditions.

The account that is being circulated is that he was "just swimming above the stingray" which seems incredibly dubious to me. He was a hell of an advocate for the conservation of snakes, reptiles and other critters. It's a shame that he's dead.

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Kind of what I thought. Just seems to wild to be true. But I guess wierder things have happened. It's a shame, for sure.

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RIP STEVE IRWIN

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it isnt all that hard to believe. There are over 5000 reported stings from rays in the US every year. They almost always go unconscious within ten minutes sometimes with permanent paralysis and even amputation. A rays stinger is designed to pierce tough objects like shark skin etc and have been recorded to be able to completely pierce the wood planks on boats. Something to think about next time you go swim with rays or let kids touch them in the bigger aquarium places. From all the news articles it appears he was floating above it with a cameraman in front videoing it. With him up above and the cameraman in front maybe it felt cornered?

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once you get past his personal story the other facts are presented
http://www.jerrylabella.com/stingray.html


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Reports this side of the pond say he died from a heart attack after been stung near the heart not stabbed in it.


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Saw this on Yahoo last night but it hadn't been confirmed then.
I feel badly for his wife and kids, sucks that his life was cut so short.

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josh knauer wrote:
So I've read a bunch of the accounts of what happened, and I am still perplexed. I've had the privilege of swimming with many stingrays, manta rays and eagle rays and I've never had a problem. In fact, most people know that unless you actually step on one of them, the chances of getting stung are almost nil. Further, for the stingray to have enough force behind it to puncture his skin, rib cage and pierce his heart, it would have had to have a hell of a lot of leverage and power behind it. I just have a hard time understanding how this happens under normal conditions.

The account that is being circulated is that he was "just swimming above the stingray" which seems incredibly dubious to me. He was a hell of an advocate for the conservation of snakes, reptiles and other critters. It's a shame that he's dead.

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From what accounts I've read he was in fact swimming above the Bull ray,but whenever a member of his camera crew swam in front of it in essense cornering it,it spooked and went into defense mode,thus driving it's barb (20cm in length) into Irwins chest.

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I feel badly for his wife and kids, sucks that his life was cut so short.


I too feel badly for his family,but Terri was insane if she didn't expect everyday to get that phone call. The dangers he put himself in on a daily basis. He was lucky to live this long. His death was inevitable. Though still very very sad.

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Which reminds me, Mr. Venom take notice of this and be VERY careful with your reptile friends :wink:


Trust me Wayne..My hands NEVER touch a venomous reptile unless it's in a restraining tube. The tools of the trade are a helluva lot cheaper than a bite. And more preferable than death.

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Mr. Venom wrote:
Origam wrote:
I feel badly for his wife and kids, sucks that his life was cut so short.


I too feel badly for his family,but Terri was insane if she didn't expect everyday to get that phone call. The dangers he put himself in on a daily basis. He was lucky to live this long. His death was inevitable. Though still very very sad.

That could describe the wives of many men who have dangerous jobs and hobbies...no one ever expects to get that call even if they know the dangers their loved one faces on a regular basis.

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Having dangerous jobs and hobbies in one thing,doing simply moronic things is another. Taking ahold of a snake that carries enough venom,so potent that ti could kill up to 200 people in one bite,and carries it in his bare hands is another. I mess with venomous snakes on a daily basis,I fight fire on a daily basis..my wife even says that she is sure that one day she will get "The Call".

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This news really shocked and saddened me. I wonder if they got it on film. BTW Wayne, the link is dead. I haven't read anything about this, just heard a blurb on the news. Freak accident is an understatement. I do wonder if he was horsing around, trying to ride the damn thing. Fly high Steve. I hope there are crocs in heaven.


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