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thanks Wayne...here's an excerpt from one of the links.

What’s the current strength of China’s military?
Experts say China has been steadily building up its strategic and conventional capabilities and preparing to project its influence into the western Pacific. [i]Fifteen years ago, experts say, China had a “bare-bones” military: basic capabilities, but nothing sophisticated or top-of-the-line. But after seventeen years of double-digit spending increases, China is currently spending two to three times more than the $30 billion per year publicly announced as its defense budget, the Pentagon estimates. All that spending has gone to building a sophisticated modern military: a massive submarine fleet, an air force stocked with Russian fighter jets, and the newest Chinese-developed technology in missile defense, satellite surveillance, radar, and interception—including the ability to fire nuclear-tipped intercontinental ballistic missiles from submarines anywhere in the Pacific Ocean. China’s military—with some 2.3 million soldiers—can now legitimately challenge that of the United States, experts say. And if the European Union lifts its 17-year-old ban on selling arms to China, as it is considering doing, the Chinese military’s modernization will proceed even more quickly. [/i]

pretty much explains the recent missile test that knocked out an aging satellite...a two-pronged endeavor...test the USA reaction and the technological capability.

with 2.3 million soldiers and a total disregard for life(they could care less about casualties with 1.3 billion people) I'd say we're in deep shit come the next 25 yrs.

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Millions of Iraqis believe that suicide attacks against British troops are justified, a secret military poll commissioned by senior officers has revealed.

The poll, undertaken for the Ministry of Defence and seen by The Sunday Telegraph, shows that up to 65 per cent of Iraqi citizens support attacks and fewer than one per cent think Allied military involvement is helping to improve security in their country.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... wirq23.xml

Only a third of the Iraqi people now believe that the American-led occupation of their country is doing more good than harm, and a solid majority support an immediate military pullout even though they fear that could put them in greater danger, according to a new USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq ... over_x.htm

About 90 percent of Iraqis feel the situation in the country was better before the U.S.-led invasion than it is today, according to a new ICRSS poll.

http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelli ... 1021-1168r

Support for attacks against US-led forces has increased sharply to 61 percent (27% strongly, 34% somewhat). This represents a 14-point increase from January 2006, when only 47 percent of Iraqis supported attacks.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/27/iraqis-poll/


It is hard to say whether pulling out of the region will decrease the violence (much of which is anti-coalition violence), or further ignite "sectarian violence" - a synonym for civil war. It would also be irresponsible to invade a country, overthrow and kill its ruler, leave the country in shambles. "Securing" Iraq will not change anything in United States' national security. In fact, I think the arrogance the U.S. government has shown in its policies regarding this war has done far more harm than good. Our agenda is not to help the people, IMO. Business is playing the most important role here, not the sake of humanity.

We constantly hear about the numerous deaths of soldiers and their life-stories, but there is an intentional failure to mention the high numbers of Iraqi civilian deaths. Depending on the source, the civilian deathtoll ranges anywhere from 40,000 to over 100,000. If you compare this number to the total Iraqi population, and then to projected American civilian casualties as an equivalent percentage of civilian deaths (roughly estimated and using 50,000 as the Iraqi deathtoll); 88 9/11 attacks would have to take place, or 444,000 American lives lost.

The U.S. is also well aware of the toxicity of depleted uranium shells - which are being dropped across Iraq. Effects of this toxic substance have caused unthinkable birth defects where intestines are located outside the body and children are born without mouths or eyes as well as high percentage increases of cancer throughout the country.

The public is also ill-informed about the support the U.S. gave Saddam in the Iraq-Iran war. The U.S. backed Saddam's war with Iran and supplied him with munitions, technology, and military intelligence.

If the U.S. was interested in saving people, why did they prevent medicinal aid, water, and food from reaching the country post Gulf War resulting in thousands upon thousands of deaths of children under 12 years of age? Why are they dropping cancer-causing DU shells on civilians?