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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:37 am 
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Extract from today's Daily Telegraph Newspaper....

....' Everyone should automatically become an organ donor in order to prevent hundreds of deaths each year, the Government's chief doctor said today.

Sir Liam Donaldson called for a change in the law so only those who register their objections are exempt from donating their organs after their death.


Sir Liam has called for an opt-out system with proper regulation.
He said one person dies each day in the UK waiting for a donor and the change could increase the number of organs available.

The shortage is fuelling "transplant tourism" where UK patients travel abroad and often pay for a donor organ which puts them at unnecessary risk, Sir Liam said.

The recommendations were made in the annual report of the chief medical officer, published today. '.......

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... nor117.xml

Personally, when I'm dead and if they can find any useful bits they can have 'em !

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:32 pm 
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I can understand the problems involved with decidign what to do concerning organ donation (I am registered myself) but to make everyone a donor unless they opt out is an unwelcome incursion into civil liberties, IMO.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:37 pm 
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Wayne Stollings wrote:
I can understand the problems involved with decidign what to do concerning organ donation (I am registered myself) but to make everyone a donor unless they opt out is an unwelcome incursion into civil liberties, IMO.



I am also a donor...if they can find any workable bits !
Your last remark about civil liberties made me think. It is the last 'liberty' that can be taken from you. At least though, it may give someone a better life.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:46 pm 
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I don't believe it should be required, but I just don't understand why someone wouldn't want to. Religion, maybe?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:20 pm 
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I believe that some religions ( jewish maybe?) forbid such a thing...I am also a registered organ donor....imagine grace needing my heart lol wouldn't THAT be a hoot :shock:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:52 pm 
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OHIOSTEVE wrote:
I believe that some religions ( jewish maybe?) forbid such a thing...I am also a registered organ donor....imagine grace needing my heart lol wouldn't THAT be a hoot :shock:



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OHIOSTEVE wrote:
I believe that some religions ( jewish maybe?) forbid
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Yes, some of the religions, see below, require are opposed to the procedure in some form.

http://www.nyodn.org/organ/o_religious.html


Jehovah's Witness
Jehovah Witnesses believe donation is a matter of individual decision. However, restrictions apply pertaining to blood transfusion. According to the National Headquarters, the Watch Tower Society, Jehovah Witnesses are often presumed to be opposed to donation because of their belief against blood transfusion. However, this merely means that all blood must be removed from the organs and tissues before being transplanted. In addition, it would not be acceptable for an organ donor to receive blood as part of the organ recovery process.

Gypsies (Roma)
Gypsies are a people of different ethnic groups without a formalized religion. They share common folk beliefs and tend to be opposed to organ and tissue donation. Their opposition is connected with their beliefs about the afterlife. Traditional belief contends that for one year after death, the soul retraces its steps. Thus, the body must remain intact because the soul maintains its physical shape.


Shinto
In Shinto, the dead body is considered to be impure and dangerous, and thus quite powerful. "In folk belief context, injuring a dead body is a serious crime …" according to E. Namihira in his article, "Shinto Concept Concerning the Dead Human Body." "To this day it is difficult to obtain consent from bereaved families for organ donation or dissection for medical education or pathological anatomy…(T) he Japanese regard them all in the sense of injuring a dead body." Families are often concerned that they not injure the itai - the relationship between the dead person and the bereaved people.




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. ..I am also a registered organ donor....imagine grace needing my heart lol wouldn't THAT be a hoot :shock:


Talk about a change of heart taking place .... :shock:

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OHIOSTEVE wrote:
I believe that some religions ( jewish maybe?) forbid such a thing...I am also a registered organ donor....imagine grace needing my heart lol wouldn't THAT be a hoot :shock:


I'm just glad they don't do brain transplants.


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Grace wrote:
OHIOSTEVE wrote:
I believe that some religions ( jewish maybe?) forbid such a thing...I am also a registered organ donor....imagine grace needing my heart lol wouldn't THAT be a hoot :shock:


I'm just glad they don't do brain transplants.


Or in some cases brain insertions because they have none to remove? :razz: :razz: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Grace wrote:
OHIOSTEVE wrote:
I believe that some religions ( jewish maybe?) forbid such a thing...I am also a registered organ donor....imagine grace needing my heart lol wouldn't THAT be a hoot :shock:


I'm just glad they don't do brain transplants.

Your neuro transmitters would blow up from all of the newfound TRUTH being sent out..

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OHIOSTEVE wrote:
Grace wrote:
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I believe that some religions ( jewish maybe?) forbid such a thing...I am also a registered organ donor....imagine grace needing my heart lol wouldn't THAT be a hoot :shock:


I'm just glad they don't do brain transplants.

Your neuro transmitters would blow up from all of the newfound TRUTH being sent out..



You say you've got the brain of a newfoundland???

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If you're dead it doesn't really matter. You don't get to take them with you. 'Course it kind of sucks they're trying to make the decision for people..

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i don't know that how we can donate the body organs...is that is match with the other people.i think its a best thinking due to this the life of the other people will be safe.according to the search that human can donate every body organ.is this possible or not???


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:16 am 
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In terms of civil liberties, the current way is only slightly "better" then the proposed way as long as the process of registering your exception clear and without loop-holes. In terms of saving lives with these organs, it will make a huge difference in time it takes to make sure you have approval to use them and are able to inform those receiving the organ to prepare for surgery. It might also be a thing of pride for those with religious objections to wear a bracelet saying that they are not donors and include a registration number of their complaint. This might not work though if they also object to "jewelry" and tattoos (such as some Hutterites/Mennonites) but that is just an option... body identification still needs to be done. If you have seen the Max Headroom shows and pilot movie, you will know of another potential problem (but this is a "slippery slope" argument) in people being killed and then sold on the black market under a fake name for their organs.


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