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How would it affect your civil liberties if you are dead? When you are alive you can opt out so you are not been forced to do anything...

Just notice that this thread is ancient!

The last will and testament of people is held in rather high regard by some people... especially if they think they need their body in one piece for their journey into the afterlife. Of course it also includes the fate and emotional journey of their relatives and dependents.

Note that I did not start the thread but obviously was not active here when the thread was

In terms of civil liberties, the current way is only slightly "better" then the proposed way as long as the process of registering your exception clear and without loop-holes. In terms of saving lives with these organs, it will make a huge difference in time it takes to make sure you have approval to use them and are able to inform those receiving the organ to prepare for surgery. It might also be a thing of pride for those with religious objections to wear a bracelet saying that they are not donors and include a registration number of their complaint. This might not work though if they also object to "jewelry" and tattoos (such as some Hutterites/Mennonites) but that is just an option... body identification still needs to be done. If you have seen the Max Headroom shows and pilot movie, you will know of another potential problem (but this is a "slippery slope" argument) in people being killed and then sold on the black market under a fake name for their organs.

What is with a couple of fruitcake newbies dredging up old threads, without any intros?????
This was an ignorant thread from the start and should have died..........

(ignorant because the persons did not know about diseases in the blood and organs like Hep C and cancers)
then you have the 1989 book author still trying to sell it. Spam, and 3 more than mothy who make numerous inane comments, and I thought one was bad enough!!

Did you not know that donated organs are screened for infection etc..? Who's the ignorant one on this I ask myself..

Cancer may not be found even in a screening and may be introduced into a donor.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,344 ... z1sgTwXKj0

The family of a 15-year-old New York boy thought they were helping him to live on by donating his organs.


Instead, the organs spread a rare, undiagnosed cancer to the four transplant recipients, according to a report from WCBSTV.com.


Alex Koehne of Sag Harbor, Long Island, died a year ago of lymphoma, but his parents were told he died from bacterial meningitis. Since then, two of the organ recipients have died and two others are battling the same disease, according to the report.


Jim and Lisa Koehne asked for an autopsy following their son's death, according to the report. A month later they found out Alex actually had died of a rare lymphoma; the organs, however, already had been donated.

And it's rare... Doctors give you all the information about the risks giving you chance to make an informed decision. The alternative would be....

Did you not know that donated organs are screened for infection etc..? Who's the ignorant one on this I ask myself..

Did you not know that donated organs are screened for infection etc..? Who's the ignorant one on this I ask myself..

The lack of knowledge of disease in the blood and organs would make one ignorant of that fact and knowing there could be some screening does not eliminate the risk or the lack of knowledge of the possible diseease vector.

No it shows that the risks are low enough for donated organ donation to be practised world wide and it saves lives.

I didn't claim there was no risk.

Very negative posting coming from the regulars, if you don't want me here just say so and I will vacate this place without a problem. I don't think it would help matters if people are allowed to insult others, is this how things work around here.

I've been called a fruit cake twice on this forum and would expect a moderator to take action, it offend me.

I wonder if Mr electric boogaloo would refuse a donated organ...

It might depend on the donor or the circumstances ... or not.

You can show me the insults I offered,

I'm wouldn't say the word ignorance is an insult,

fruit cake is but I get the way this place works so now.

That depends of how you think. I would have said "waste of time debating with" but you though different, your standard.