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Iowanic

Post subject: Re: This topic is for questions you've always wanted to ask.

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:55 am

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jhawk

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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:56 am

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Iowanic wrote:

Ok......

I better warn all.....I'm in a mischief mood. I suspect I'll be disagreeing about everything, just to do so. :twisted:

Sorry ahead of time.

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OMG, Iowanic is morphing into another Wayne...
Run for the hills folks.

(Sorry Wayne) .

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Wayne Stollings

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Wayne Stollings wrote:

Xothermic wrote:

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"If you were aboard a lifeboat with a baby and a dog, and the boat capsized, would you rescue the baby or the dog?"

Question - Why not break the rules and try to save both?

That is what Kirk did in his Starfleet Acadamy exercise, but that involved changing the program. It is hard to change the program in life unless you have supernatural powers and then why not just prevent the need for the lifeboat?

animallover wrote:

I am with Xo.....I said it a long time ago in another thread......I would try to save both. In real life you always have choices.

Yes, but in reality the choices are limited by what will succeed. That choice might actually result in all three being lost instead of saving two.

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Wayne Stollings

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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:58 am

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jhawk wrote:

Iowanic wrote:

Ok......

I better warn all.....I'm in a mischief mood. I suspect I'll be disagreeing about everything, just to do so. :twisted:

Sorry ahead of time.

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OMG, Iowanic is morphing into another Wayne...
Run for the hills folks.

(Sorry Wayne) .

:twisted:

He has just come over to the dark side for the cookies is all ..... they are chocolate chip with nuts today.

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animallover

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It's the Gnomes. He tried to convince us he was all better....but I didn't buy it. I knew when he said he was eating neosporin.

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Iowanic

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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:00 am

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Hey, antibioics is almost a new food-group.

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animallover

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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:03 am

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Wayne Stollings wrote:

Yes, but in reality the choices are limited by what will succeed. That choice might actually result in all three being lost instead of saving two.

People make sacrifices everyday......and the choice to do so always exists. To think otherwise makes for a very limited outlook. I would rather try than not but that is me.....and I hope if I needed help that I wasn't stuck with someone unwilling to try whatever they could because they could only think about themselves or by what they "think" will suceed.
The only true failure is in not making the attempt or trying.

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jhawk

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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:04 am

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My police training said that the first rule is to assess the situation and then don't make ourselves into another casualty.

In spite of that my instincts always were...and still are...to put others' lives before my own.
That's the way I am.

Of course the test would be in a real event. I don't know if I could run into a burning building, or attempt a sea-rescue.

I hope I never have to find out.

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jhawk

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OMG, Iowanic is morphing into another Wayne...
Run for the hills folks.

(Sorry Wayne) .

:twisted:

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He has just come over to the dark side for the cookies is all ..... they are chocolate chip with nuts today.[/quote]

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Ooooh, I'll be right over...swap some of your cookies for some of my Weightwatchers' ginger and lemon ones ? They're quite good actually.

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animallover

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I have found out that that intinct overrides any fear.....that is until after and you are trying to figure out what you just did. :lol:

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Wayne Stollings

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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:12 am

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jhawk wrote:

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He has just come over to the dark side for the cookies is all ..... they are chocolate chip with nuts today.

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Ooooh, I'll be right over...swap some of your cookies for some of my Weightwatchers' ginger and lemon ones ? They're quite good actually.

=P~

Sorry, but the Dark side prohibits cookies form Weightwatchers .... or any that could be called "good" for you.

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Wayne Stollings

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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:15 am

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Choice A: Person lives

Choice B: Person and infant lives

Choice C: Person and dog lives

Choice D: None live.

The crux of the question has always been between B and C as no rational person should choose either A or D in this case.

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Wayne Stollings

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animallover wrote:

Wayne Stollings wrote:

Yes, but in reality the choices are limited by what will succeed. That choice might actually result in all three being lost instead of saving two.

Sure, but in the context of this question the sacrifice is, the dog, the infant, both the dog and infant, or the dog, the infant, and the person that is supposed to decide. It seems the last two are not the better choices to me, but they are valid choices.

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animallover

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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:22 am

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Wayne Stollings wrote:

You cannot say what the outcome will be for sure....you can speculate what it might be. But then again you refuse to see that the boat is still usable.....it is NOT sunk. But that is the difference in how people look at things. You have missed the forest for the trees. The option of using the boat was always there and could always be used.

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animallover

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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:25 am

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Wayne Stollings wrote:

animallover wrote:

Wayne Stollings wrote:

Yes, but in reality the choices are limited by what will succeed. That choice might actually result in all three being lost instead of saving two.

The context of the question was to try to put the value of one over the other and nothing else. No need to over analyse what it really is.

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