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The Former, Wolf Expert whom, the ARA were so proud of because his plan was for wolf recovery to to work, is now being ridiculed by former supporters for suggesting wolf numbers need to be culled to maintain healthy packs and ecosystems.


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Conservation Groups Challenge Federal Wolf-Killing Rule


January 28, 2008

MISSOULA, Mont.- Conservation groups are fighting a Bush administration plan that would allow the states of Idaho, Wyoming, and Montana to kill half of the Rocky Mountain wolf population, including by shooting wolves from the air, while they are still protected under the Endangered Species Act. In an effort to bar states from aerial gunning and other state-sponsored killing of wolves, seven conservation groups filed a suit in federal district court today to stop the implementation of the rule.

The new rule lowers the bar for wolf killing when a state determines that wolves may be having some impact on populations of elk, deer, or other wild ungulates. The Bush Administration says the rule change is necessary because the previous standard required states to show that wolves are the primary cause of a decline in wild ungulate numbers. That threshold has provenimpossible to meet because nearly all elk herds in Idaho, Wyoming, and Montana are above population objectives, and wolves have never been determined to have primarily caused a population decline.
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Groups sue over wolves
By EVE BYRON - Independent Record - 01/29/08
FWP photo - Three adult wolves, part of a larger pack, are pictured.
Seven conservation groups made good on a threat last week to file a lawsuit challenging a temporary federal rule that would loosen restrictions on when gray wolves can be shot in Montana, Wyoming and Idaho.

The legal documents filed in U.S. District Court in Missoula Monday morning ask that the new federal rule, also published Monday, be overturned, according to Louisa Willcox with the Natural Resources Defense Council. The case has been assigned to Chief Judge Donald Molloy.

“The fundamental issue is that we’re so close to wolf recovery in the Northern Rockies and close to a success story. But the Bush Administration seems intent on reversing that,” Willcox said. “We’re spitting distance from recovery and now we’ll be moving in the wrong direction.”




Anyone see where these two articles are not taking into consideration that the wolf needs balance in order to protect themselves and the ecosystems??? To begin with, these orgs are NOT CONSERVATIONIST ORGS but PRESERVATIONIST ORGS that would not have offered RECOVERY program to begin with but they supported it because it cut hunters out of hunting in certain designated areas where ungulates could get cut down by tooth & claw rather then arrows & bullets..

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Here you go AL.

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Thriving Gray Wolf May Come Off U.S. Endangered List

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William Campbell
for National Geographic Today
January 22, 2003

By late spring or early summer, the United States Fish and Wildlife Service may propose removing the western population of gray wolf from the endangered species list.

The population has made a comeback in the Northern Rockies, which represents a significant achievement for the wolf—and for conservation. But the delisting proposal has sparked debate among federal and state agencies, and private environmental groups about whether the wolf should indeed roam free of the endangered designation.


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U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service
U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service News
Release
January 29, 2007

Interior Department Announces Delisting of Western Great Lakes Wolves; Proposed Delisting of Northern Rocky Mountain Wolves

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Separate Actions Part of Larger Recovery Effort



Deputy Secretary of the Interior Lynn Scarlett today announced that the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is removing the western Great Lakes population of gray wolves from the federal list of threatened and endangered species and proposing to remove the northern Rocky Mountain population of gray wolves from the list. The two separate actions are being taken in recognition of the success of gray wolf recovery efforts under the Endangered Species Act.



"Wolves have recovered in the western Great Lakes because efforts to save them from extinction have been a model of cooperation, flexibility, and hard work," Scarlett said. "This same spirit of collaboration has helped gray wolves in the Northern Rockies exceed their recovery goals to the point where they are biologically ready to be delisted. States, tribes, conservation groups, federal agencies and citizens of both regions can be proud of their roles in saving this icon of wilderness."

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In other words, you're blowing air out your pie hole with nothing to back it up. No answer is answer enough. ARA's? Disease? Ecosystems??

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It is only my humble opinion , but I believe more research should be made before re-introducing species. It may be found that old entrenched beliefs re sustainable numbers , may have to be amended due to the change in numbers of prey animals etc. due to climate change.
As I say, I am no expert by any means. I don't know how the wolves in Scotland are faring. If I find out, I'll let you know.

I am not familiar with Mr. M's work or research, but it must be very difficult to assess all the factors involved.

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