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You know all this talk about the latest Mars landing made me think of something.

We have this thread on Jupiter, and it's warming up.

Then they talk about Mars warming up.

http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=17977

And of course we have our own global warming.

So I was wondering what all three of these have in common.

Iowanics undies? No.
SUVs? No
Coal fired power plants? No.
Al Gore? No.
Polar Bears on a chunk of ice? No.

The sun? Yes.

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I don't know what your problem is but I bet its hard to pronounce.

My undies are certainly getting a lot of milage. Which is the problem, I suspect.

Along with other things, yes. The fact is Jupiter is too far away from the sun to see any measurable increase in temperature unless the sun were to go nova ......

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Well I suppose their climate change and warmer temps could be caused by our SUVs, but I have my doubts on that one.

It is interesting that we just happen to have 3 planets in our solar system all experiencing a warming trend at the same time.

Would you say they are not connected in any way?

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I don't know what your problem is but I bet its hard to pronounce.

Do any of you boffins know anything about gamma bursts from the sun ?

The three planets, with their minimum distance from the sun and the temperature range. Notice Jupiter is about 4 to 5 times farther from the sun and is still a bit warmer than the coldest range of Mars, and Earth both .... not from solar warming.

Jupiter 460 million miles -101 F (cloud top)

Mars 128 million miles -200 F to 32 F

Earth 91 million miles -128 F to 136 F

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Jupiter's newest "blemish" used to be a white oval-shaped storm but turned brick red as its clouds rose and reacted to solar UV radiation. ..........

The advent of yet another red spot in Jupiter's turbulent atmosphere may support the idea that the planet is undergoing climate change. ...........
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... photo.html

So having three planets warming up at the same time is a coincidence? They are not connected in any way?

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Another factor in all the planets and moons is gravitational changes. Tidal forces not only affect the fluid on the surface (ocean tides) but also the temperature of the molten core. We still do not understand nor are able to measure gravitational waves which change the actual size of everything (including measuring equipment) but is thought to account for a significant portion of the universe's background heat. We may be being bombarded with gravitational waves right now and not know it but may be heating up as a solar system because of it.

Possibly, or not. The picking of random similarities does not show cause and effect, as much as some would want to be able to say there is a known conncection.

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J; I haven't heard of gamma bursts from our sun. From outside the solar system, yes, but not from the local furnace. Gamma rays are preety powerful, I'd heard. Couldn't they plow all the way thru of atmosphere and do some damage down here?

Well I have my doubts that we'd be able to figure out a cause, but it is interesting that we have three planets all going through a climate change at the same time. And why is it you feel I want to be able to say there is a known connection? I'm just pointing out a fact. Can your theory on GW not withstand a fact that may or may not have anything to do with global warming.

Could they be connected? As you say maybe, maybe not.

That's all there is to it nothing more. But there is one thing we know for sure, our SUVs shouldn't have anything to do with their climate change. Now all that space junk we throw out there at them, might be another story.

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I don't know what your problem is but I bet its hard to pronounce.

Why would that be interesting, other than general interest, that is?



I don't know, maybe the number of your posts that try to make the case there is no human connection to the increase in temperature we are experiencing?



And some "interesting" implications?



Sure, but some seem to jump to really interesting conclusions not based on realistic science.



Anything is possible, but a conncetion between the three is highly improbable.



All of what space junk we throw at Jupiter or even Mars for that matter?

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