My response to roadside, moved here after originally being posted in another thread:
The problem is that there are so many varying points being addressed that it is virtually impossible to focus on specific aspects and still being able to formulate an educated opinion.
That's what I mean. If someone doesn't know any better, they'll throw out anything remotely related as if it were as significant as any other. They can't tell the difference because they don't know any better. Couple that with an audience that also doesn't know the difference but wanting to learn, and we have, well, what you described in your statement above--everyone trying to talk about everything simultaneously, as if all deserved equal consideration.
Now, I'm not thoroughly familiar with everyone's background here. But that up there sounds like group therapy to me, not anything close to a learning environment, much less a structured one.
Anyone can create an opinion regarding a specific matter without delving into that topic. Does that mean they know what they're talking about? No.
I fail to see how one unfamliar with a topic is capable of developing an informed opinion on it. They can know what they're talking about, so to speak, but it would only be about their opinion, not the actual topic.
But take the opinion of someone who has studied a variety of aspects, and then formulated an opinion, and you have someone who can participate in a reasonable discussion or debate.
Indeed. Such folks should facilitate if not moderate
this type discussion. Mind you, I'm not talking about people that have been "educated" by surfing the internet.
What inhibits learning the most is the cloudiness brought on by those trying to mask anything other than their opinion.
Quite honestly, I think you and alot of other newer members simply aren't used to having your opinions challenged.
I've seen it through the years here with AR and anti-AR, enviro and anti-enviros alike. There is no need to get get hot under the collar when your opinion is questioned. Hell, just answer and question back. Quotes like the one above indicate that one has already taken something the wrong way--personally
. Do that and you've killed discussion before you can raise a finger to point.