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Actually, I did mention her, but you are too obtuse, or simply lack elementary school level reading comprehension skills, to notice it. This is what I said:

"...we just had a woman candidate for Vice President who was also the governor of a state..."

To whom do you think I was referring to, there? Santa Claus? And how is she a "serial killer"? What murders has she ever been convicted of? Congratulations, Bozanich, you found a way to be both libelous and moronic in the same phrase! Also, what is a "gun nut"? Someone who believes that they should have the right to own a weapon to defend themselves and their family from assault by society's vermin? Someone who agrees with Thomas Jefferson, one of the most brilliant men in history, who said that the quickest way to enslave a people is to disarm them?

ROFLMAO! God, you're a funny boy, Bozanich. Do you mean the hypocrite Pam Anderson who is part owner of a highbrow, expensive Hollywood restaurant called Black Steel where such vegan delights as lamb chops and foie gras are on the menu? That Pam Anderson? Do you mean the Bill Maher, who, on his own T.V. show, embarrassed himself when he got an intellectual ass-kicking on the subject of animal rights from famous zoo director and conservationist Jack Hanna? That Bill Maher? And you expect us to believe these celebrity buffoons have any credibility what so ever?

Did you really expect a reaction different from the one you got, Donnie? You and I have been involved in debating the AR issue on different boards for a long time now. In my experience, and perhaps also in yours, when you point out an AR's own hypocrisy to them, you generally get one of three reactions:

1. No response
2. They try to rationalize their hypocrisy
3. They become angry and defensive, oftentimes very much so

In my experience, number 3 is the most common, and is often combined with number 2. Ante's response to you is a classic number 3. I remember once, several years ago, reading an AR's blog in a post he made about his cat, in which he admitted that his cat wasn't on a vegetarian diet. I reminded him that every time he bought cat food, he was purchasing a product that was produced by the same "animal exploitation industry" that he railed against others for patronizing in his sanctimonious, vociferous diatribes. He went into complete meltdown and banned me from commenting on his blog. It is a fact of life. Hypocrites NEVER like to face their own hypocrisy, because doing so costs them their pretentious, false moral high ground that is a major source of their self-worth.

Hello Griz. Happy Hunting and keep your freezer full.


I did class this closing by Ante as vulgar. Frankly, the best I could possibly do is feel sorry for you but I can't even do that knowing that you deliberately murder and advocate murder of defenseless animal persons. So please, f*ck off and go harass someone else, will you?

I did class Ante's closing remark as vulgar for obvious reasons. He does keep building my case for me in that sanctimonious speciest denial of his.

Here's the review for part 2 of 'meat is yucky 'cause we say so' hosted by what-her-face who got elected to something somewhere.


1) cow farting 101-----BOOOOORINNNGGG! More old news. I wish they'd discuss how much methane termities produce. They don't mention how they intend to control methane immesions from the wild-kingdom.

2) the dread '18%'.
Notice how they don;t compare how much greenhouse gases would be produced by crop-only agriculture? You know? Vegan argiculture? There's no mention of whether petrouem use would be reduced or increase if livestock were'nt contributing to the health of the soil, for crops? Gee, I wonder why.....

3) 'It's not generally known'---(regarding grain use)
Again; Lester Brown touches on this much more professionally.

4)Farmland vs forest......
Notice how they make it seem that only meat-production is resulting in deforestation? Not population growth? Classic example of being certain only part of the facts get out; so as to limit the disscussion. If this lady doesn't have a problem with using these tactics and methods of deceit; then she's simply another politician: trying to get into people's wallets.

5) 'Nothing is more important then controlling global warming"

6)'One-side view of global warming'
Did she actually say this with a straight face? oh, the irony


Overall, this one really sucked. A rehash of old facts and done with such a reeking slant, it was pretty sad. Anyone else note the silly bit of including the farmers 'on their side' as a glaring attempt to make it seem they weren't really against farmers, of course? So blatant I started to laugh.

1 t-bone out of 5; they piled the BS higher then a manure pile and there were no cartoons.

Can't wait to see how part three will fare. Keep 'em coming, Ante. I'm having a party with this.

Hey Donnie. Good hunting to you too! I certainly hope to get the freezer full here in the next couple of months. Going elk and mule deer hunting next month. I also got a call this summer from an old college buddy who lives out in eastern Colorado and he wanted to know if I wanted to come out and hunt antelope this fall. That should be a kick; I haven't hunted pronghorn in a coon's age. If I can get lucky enough to fill my elk, deer, and antelope tags, the freezer will runneth over! First order of business though, is the opening of duck season. I always have to be in the blind with my dad on the opening Saturday morning of the first season.

An AR who's also a politician. Now that is the stuff that nightmares are made of. When you combine an AR with a politician, both of which are almost always deceitful by nature, you are going to get lots of lies, deceit, dishonesty, poor logic, dubious data, and half-truths all served up on a heaping pile of bullshit. Good job on calling a spade a spade.

Here's part three reviewed......

This section had a lot of rehash; it's almost like they couldn't figure out where to head next; so they tried to just repeat everything previous. Again; perhaps if one says something often enough, it'll sound like the truth....without it actually being so....

1) 'The area to produce food'
Again, she dodges the impact popalation has.

2) 'the haves/have nots sob-story'
Socialism raises it's ugly head. Didn't see this coming, did we?

3) Land-use is only presented as meat-product(As currently produced) vs veggie-products only. No middle-ground considered: even though there is evidence such middle ground is in fact the best for the eco-system.

4) sign noted: '#1 cause of global-warming'
Not the truth, of course. But consider the people holding the signs....

5) Question to our viewers: Who's ever taken a leaflet from PETA? Anyone?

6) 'Al Gore is a politician...'
But how does the lady in this video make a living?

7) Silverstone is right pretty. What watching her squirm about in front of a camera has to do with helping the ecology, you're guess is as good as mine.

1 t-bone out of 5; they're getting worst as we go.

Whatca think?
http://socialistworker.org/2009/10/26/s ... mal-rights

Bump.

I think it's time for intermission.
For your entertainment....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPOBMzMTP4U

I'll be reviewing part 4, if I get the time today.

Okay; part 4's review....

1) 'Pusher' cows and pill-popping pigs......Okay. Sure.

2) can all the bigwigs in ARA possibly scratch each other's backs anymore shamelessly? IT's like a info-mercial on ARA....

3)Boy, Al Gore just can't be apologized for enough, either.

4) More standard 'we don't eat meat because it's tasty and gives health benefits...we do so because we're told to." This is standard ARA stuff, I've noticed.

5)Notice how when they display people eatting meat; those people are all chubby or appear old? Apparently there's something about showing healthy, active and skinny meat-consumers they just can't bring themselves to do. (I'm sure they have good reasons )

6) Notice no mention is ever made of people who rasie their own meat or use hunting as the primary source of meat? They seem to perfer meat-consumption protrayed in just one manner....their own.

2 t-bones out of 5. The cartoon pig was cute, even if he did sound like in had a really bad cold. Maybe he needs more meat in his diet...
Well, that's 4 down. I don't know if Ante will be back with the last 4. Hope there better then the first 4...